New Capricorn Delievered to Builders

Not too many details as only just arrived at the builder in Batam. But stern section has been flattened out and the rear beam has been raised. Sure to be other changes, but that's all i know at this stage.

Front beam will be moved aft a bit as well. The new boat will look a little more Viper from what I was told some time ago.

Pics?

None yet. On a different island and nation from me.

Just spoken to AHPC, and they are NOT building a new Capricorn!!

LOL Snapped!!!

taipanfc are you sure it wasn't the new 20 to replace the I20???

My source is correct. New Capricorn moulds delivered for build.

Wow.. interesting HJS!

gotta say... I am fairly certain that they are building a new boat! Who did you speak to? I have heard from Greg Goodall's mouth "we have new Capricorn moulds in production after what we have learnt from the original Capricorn and now the Viper"

Any more information on hull design? Flattened stern they say but how about the rest? Do we think it will follow wild-cat thinking?

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Hmmm. After starting this thread about a new Capricorn coming, HJS was adamant there wasn't, even to the stage of sending me lots of PMs telling me it was all untrue!

Is it a new Capricorn, or is it a new F18? HJS might still be right.

I think a new F18 from AHPC will always be seen as a replacement to the Capricorn. Can't see them producing Capricorn and another F18 in tandem.

As above... It's not a new Capricorn! It's a new F18!

Hobie still make the Tiger don't they?

The Capricorn will still be in production after the new boat comes out.

Hi John - how do you know? And if you are right and both boats remain in production, this only would make sense if the new F18 is at a considerable different (probably higher) price than the Capricorn. Like the Wildcat is much more expensive than the Tiger - which here in Germany nevertheless fades out of the regatta fields ...

I heard a rumor that the mold might be sold to a 3rd party who will resume production.

I heard a rumour Greg Goodall is sub-contracting the sails and rig to somebody else......NOT


If your going to throw 'rumours' around then provide a source!

I wont say who told me obviously, but I will tell you that is was a VERY reliable person.

SO new F18 from AHPC called the C2 officially unveiled at the Paris Boat Show. Guess "your" information is not really correct.

Since when does C2 spell Capricorn?

Ask Brett and Greg from AHPC. They decided on the C2 as it still linked with the Capricorn, WITHOUT being called Capricorn....

Really, semantics? So if the post was, AHPC is building a new F18, your reply would have been different?

I'll put this one on the list with the claim that you can be competitve at 400lbs (181 Kilos) on a Viper.

You guys are getting ruffled over nothing. There IS a new Capricorn design with the flattened stern and raised rear beam. It is going to be built in South America, and I'm of the understanding that it was originally what AHPC were going to be offering as well. At some point Greg and Brett decided to go in another direction altogether, and they designed the C2 based on their experience with the Capricorn and the Viper. The C2 is wholly their own design now, and not a Fisher boat.

So, is there a new Cap? Yes. Is the C2 the boat that was under discussion? Not really - though the original post in the thread was accurate regarding changes in the 2010 Capricorn, the C2 is a new animal. Like Hobie, AHPC now has two F18s on the market.

from what you wrote John sounds like there are three f18s from AHPC....

Only two in production for 2010, as far as I know... did I miss another memo?

a few other pictures form Paris here:

http://www.catsailing.hu/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=31&page=2

the new cap and others.

Is not that complicated.

As John said, a modified version of the original Capricorn is being built in Argentina (basically raised rear beam mod only, pics soon)

The C2 is the new F18 from AHPC, resembles the Cap? yes , as the Wildcat and Infusion did.
All boats are converging in a common gral proven shape which the original Cap help to stablish.

Thanks, CatSailingHu, at last some really illustrative photographs. Is the show in Paris worth the trip from Hungary? I'm considering Düsseldorf (which is a much shorter distance to travel for me) in January, but I'm not sure yet ...
Kai

Any information on C2 prices? (€)
I like how they moved the mast-rotation from the boom to the mastbase, that should stop people from snagging their lifejacket behind it.
Dusseldorf is not worth the trip if you want to see beachcats, I only go to buy cheap kitesurfing gear and stare at the megayachts.

I had also other business to go in Paris (F18 wc meeting). So as I was just 1km from the show, it was logical to visit, but I do not think I would travel from Budapest just for the boatshow.

I was happy to see the Volvo 40, the wild cat and the new cap.

The new cap is really nice. The carbon daggerboars and rudder blades looks great, and yes, the mast rotator/mast foot also a nice development.

They changed to separate tack line for the spi, and there is an interesting auto relase solution for the tack line, check
this above the tramp



and under

Check out http://www.voilesetvoiliers.com/chantier/video/2597/video-voile-cata-de-sport-c2-l-excellence-en-f18
Great Video of AHPC new C2 at the Paris boat show..... Even better if you can speak French!!

Thank you for posting that. I enjoyed it.

I am a big fan of the one line halyard-/tack line-system: very convenient and less clutter on the deck. What may have made them to return to the standard solution?

Can set at shyer angles
Reduced chance of jamming, halyard twisting or double pulley failure
More control over set. ie can let out required halyard or tack line without doing both at the same time.

Can you tell I am a fan of it.

Interview with Brett Goodall:
http://www.ahpc.com.au/News/C2InterviewBGoodall.html

First photos of the C2 testing at http://www.ahpc.com.au/Index.html with more to come!!!

Thought you might be interested.

please refer to this link for some new C2 pictures and first impressions of french dealer who was lucky enough to sail the C2.

now including the link. sorry..

http://catsailingnews.blogspot.com/

Boy...after that review I am really anxious to find a C2 to sail against. I like the way my boat sails downwind. It will be interesting to see how a C2 compares in the same conditions.

Later,
Dan