Hi All,

Can anybody local suggest somewhere to get closed cell foam and polystyrene foam sheets.


Also, for anyone hanging out for a sail, Winter series at McCrae, Saturdays in July, 1.00pm start. (You can probably guess from my question that I will not be sailing) <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Cheers,

Simon,

If I was doing this at home I would deal with FGI and they have a sales outlet in Springvale...in Melb.

FGI - Springvale
1612-1638 Centre Road
Springvale VIC 3171
Tel: (03) 9550 5650
Fax: (03) 9547 5179
Postal: PO Box 40
Clayton South Vic 3169

hope this helps and you are back on the water soon....

Enjy the smell of glass.

David
"Banh Sidhe"

Simon,

Sorry to hear your Mozzie is sick. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> What are the symptoms ?

Another local supplier is Nupol Composites although they are into Polyester and Vinyl Ester but have core materials.

http://www.nupol.com.au/branches

And another one is:

Saint-Gobain RF Pty Ltd
635 Queensberry St
North Melbourne
VIC, 3051
Ph: (03) 9329 0111

Their website wasn't working tonight. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Regards,

Peter

Thanks Peter and David, I'll try FGI first as they're just around the corner from my work.

Peter,

It's not a big drama. I sailed with a "crunchy" foam frame for most of last season and I need to replace it as I have cracks in the deck where it has been flexing. I should have done it earlier but I have found myself on the committee for the Yacht club this year and that has taken up a fair bit of time. ( Plus I've been whimping out and putting off cutting a hole in my deck given my lack of knowledege in this area!) <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

I was considering re-decking the working deck but have decided to go with key-hole surgery. I figure that as long as I get the strength right, any untidy workmanship can be fixed with bog and paint. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />I am also fitting my new centre boards.

Looking forward to the learning experience and the fumes.

Cheers

simon do yourself a favour and get some gloves. dont get the M.E.K. on your skin. its a pretty nasty organic chemical. you are better off not reading the MSDS ( material safety data sheet).

Simon,

I believe you boat has AJ hulls.....and if so yours is not the only one I know of, with soft working area decks, that is, theones between the beams

It may be prudent to take the decks off and check all the frames....and easier in the long run, than doing it "keyhole"

but in the long run....your call

enjoy it either way, and not that hard a job either way

David

Hi Simon,

You mentioned the crunchiness to me at the states - was it the front deck, or between the beams?

Trevor

Yes, It's between the centrboard case and rear beam. I quite like the thought of re-decking as David suggests and replacing all the foam but when you've never done this sort of thing, going solo for the first time is a bit daunting.

Trevor, If you had the time to pop down one weekend and give me some pointers for the first one, I'd be happy to compensate you for your time.



Cheers

I'd go with David if you look up "stingray deck repair" on thebeachcats.com you'll see the results of keyhole surgery by the previous owner of my old stingray. It works for a while but then can be a total mess. If you can work out how to get your decks off you'll find the rest easy just grind out the cracked foam and put in new foam. I added a layer of divinicell and glass under the decks for hardly any extra weight and bullet proof decks. If you get the prescarfed divinacell it easily flexes to the shape of your deck, just take the deck off support it upside down put in some cloth, some resin add your foam, some weight to push the foam to shape jobs done.
regards

An excellent point you make Jeff.

I checked out the reference you gave..... boy, a picture's worth a thousand words. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Thanks.

no worries Simon,

Once the freeway is open (next week I think) You should only be about 35 minutes away.

If you like, I can bring some tools down and we can open her up!!!

Should take less than an hour.

Trevor

Much appreciated Treveor,

I have sent you a PM with address and phone numbers. Yes, the freeway opens next Sunday. My boys are at their mothers that weekend and I have the following week off to continue the job, so if next Sunday suits, I'll prepare the operating theatre. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Cheers

Hi Trevor,

Did you get my PM?

Cheers

This is mid way through exploratory surgery. (Thanks Trevor for showing me the way with that first router plunge)

Looks like the cause of my problems is a very dodgy repair!

Notice the join in the stringers.... no support and bugger all glue... Also, its a bit hard to see but the deck support was put in with bog.... no epoxy let alone tape.

All the crap out (except the broken stringers) and time for Trevor and I to head to the pub <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Couple of interesting things found. The positioning of the track as per the glass boats, and fibreglass cases.

At this stage the consensus of 2 in my garage was that a proper repair to this area will be all that is required, rather than doing the whole deck. Everything fore and aft of the impact zone seems solid and where it should be.

Plan is some Ply half-frames with t-tops at the joins, cut and insert new stinger lengths to suit, doubling at the joins, and a good number of thick foam frames, epoxied in.

I'll take some happy snaps as I go for anyone interested.

Cheers

OK Simon,

I've waited long enough. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Where's the rest of the happy snaps ?? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Were both hulls having the same problem ?
Did this hull have any leaks prior to the surgery and if so have you checked around the centreboard casing ?

Regards,

Peter

Hi Peter,

I've had the boys home for holidays this week so not much time. Also, I had a bit of trouble tracking down some 3mm Ply, coming in 3 weeks <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> so I've relaxed off a bit. I'm getting the Bog off from the dodgy repair, bloody hard stuff!

In the mean time, some snaps of the case set up. Not what I expected to find.

Will hopefully make some more progress this week

Cheers

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