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#222293 10/21/10 10:31 AM 10/21/10 10:31 AM |
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Posts: 893 | Ok, how about we do a lineup? You guys bring an A class and I bring the F20.....
You shouldn't believe everything you read on the web...
Mecca that would be such a throw of the dice, I think I would run that one past your bosses first. If the 20 lost you would knock the sales so hard that it would probably never survive as a class, if it won and we are talking a straight upwind leg here, then it would be the boat design of the decade. Be a good boy and run that one past your bosses before someone takes you up | | | Re: Upwind - Fast -- Rudder "slip"
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#222363 10/22/10 03:01 PM 10/22/10 03:01 PM |
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Posts: 242 Brisveagas | Seriously guys the DNA wouldn't stand a chance. I've seen them they don't seem to be much faster than all the other A s. Not much faster upwind than a Viper.
I guarantee the F20 would pass a A like it standing still in nearly all conditions.
Maccas Ferrari analogy is pretty right.
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| | | Re: Upwind - Fast -- Rudder "slip"
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#222368 10/22/10 05:48 PM 10/22/10 05:48 PM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | I don't have a ton of time on an A-Cat, but spent a handful of weekends on a Boyer mkIV this summer, and it would blow the doors off the Viper going to weather. Unless you've got an almost 400lb team and wind out of the A's comfort zone, I don't think the Viper has a chance upwind. I'm not saying one way or the other about any A against the new Nacra. But it'd be a fun shoot out! Get four boats together with each model with a good, and okay team and see how things go.
I'm boatless.
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#222430 10/24/10 11:06 AM 10/24/10 11:06 AM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | It might be a skill level thing too ACE. Perhaps as the sailors get better the difference is less noticeable? As a generalization I hold pace with the F18's singlehanded going to weather on my Viper, when I was sailing that old A, I was crushing them up wind. Just my experience, and the rest of the world certainly has a deeper talent pool than the U.S.
MkIV might be an old boat, but wasn't there one doing pretty well at worlds this year? I think it had updated boards/blades though.
I'm boatless.
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[Re: macca]
#222522 10/25/10 12:13 PM 10/25/10 12:13 PM |
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 893 waynemarlow
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Posts: 893 | nah, I;m cool with it.
Lets get it happening. Hi Wayne, I have sailed against the Nacra's in Holland and it was pretty even. I think we can beat them upwind especially if we have our new mast and sail, though they are quicker downwind. I like it that we are tought to be the benchmark for upwind speed. We are starting to match the speeds of the F18's downwind especially if there arn''t too many windholes and the wind has some consistency. We are open to such a drag race, let him contact me (or Peter Vink) ArnoWell game on then, any body want to take a few wagers, as there are F20c and DNA's in Holland it should be pretty easy to set up. To be honest my guess just through sheer horse power ( twice the upwind sail area and larger RM ) the F20 would have to be bets on, but if the DNA came anywhere close then it doesn't half show just how far the A's have been ahead of the rest of the fleet in design and development. | | |
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