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Need Help with Hobie 18 #28266
01/25/04 12:54 PM
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Well I totaled my Hobie 16 and thought it was time to move up so I bought an 18. Now I am lost with all the rigging. The main things I need help with are. 1.) How do I set the jib on the roller furler. 2.) How do I set up the mast rotation arm 3.)I have never used a loose footed main and don't know how it attaches. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I do not have a manual

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Re: Need Help with Hobie 18 [Re: JohnFolds] #28267
01/25/04 01:23 PM
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Re: Need Help with Hobie 18 [Re: JohnFolds] #28268
01/25/04 02:04 PM
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Hi John

there is the manual on acrobat ,-see other post
http://www.hobiecat.com/support/pdfs/TheMightyHobie18&SX_Manual.pdf

1-the jib on roller furler > you attach the drum on the bridal wires then the forstay and adjuster {plate with holes} goes through the center of the furler drum and is pinned at desired length ,--next the jib is attached with a schackle ,-its best low ,there are two holes above the drum ,one for the pin and one for the schackle ,this also gives a backup if the pin ever let go . The jib halyard goes up inside the zipper luff ,once up use a larger dia 3/16 line for jib downhaul ,-that is from the schacle up to the pulley at the end of the halyard then down to the jib cleat ,add an extra purchase if desired ,-you just need enough jib downhaul to take out the wrinkles ,--unlike the 16 .
note --most just take the little pulley off the jib halyard wire and use the loop , its less obstructive when raising the jib and one less thing to potentially break .

2-mast rotation arm - set the cleat on the boom about 2 ft back ,-tighten the screw to place or adjust . then run a line from it thru the arm pulley and back thru the cleat ,adjust the amount of rotaion desired ,-generally 30 to 45 degrees .

3-the loose foted main attaches to the provided metal projection with holes that allign with mainsail plate,a fast pin is handy there as you can quick disconnect when on the beach for lunch between races ,

One other pain is the top hook and release devise at the top of the mast for the mainsail , most just take the flipper part {release } off ,-you can just raise the main and use the rotator arm to turn the mast sideways to allow the ring and mainsail to be lowered.

The ideal way to set up a H-18 the first time is find another H-18 and go rig up and sail with em .
There may be a local club or cat sailing group in your area ,-most are happy to help a "newbe"
Its a great cat design ,raced them through the 80s and just purchased one again for the kids and lake --I,d love to see it built again though this time with lighter modern building techniques to weigh under 280 {like the hts } with a spin snuffer system . Its radius crossbar , seakindly hull profile, and numerous good features made this a very popular cat ,-its a shame a 20 ft version was not produced , though H-21 had similar hull lines .

The original design was supposed to weigh 350 ,-then advertised in 77 at 375 ,-but most H-18s are 400 plus .
Its a great seaworthy design and great fun ,-H-18s have been sailed through the N W Passage -uper CA ,and across the Atlantic ,-one w spin was sailed in the earlier Worrell 1000s as well .
They surf really well in large seas.

have fun


Re: Need Help with Hobie 18 [Re: sail6000] #28269
01/26/04 01:57 AM
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Yes, a lightweight TheMightyHobie18 would be a kick-a** boat. Using carbon fiber throughout could probably keep all-up weight under 300#. In the late 70's and part of the 80's Hobie advertised the TheMightyHobie18 as "fastest 8 foot wide cat on the market". This forced NACRA to catch up by making the N5.8.

It's hard to say how this suuperlight TheMightyHobie18 would do agianst boats such as the Tiger or Taipan, but it would make a fun experiment!

D. Ho
TheMightyHobie18 1067

Re: Need Help with Hobie 18 [Re: DHO] #28270
01/26/04 09:23 AM
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Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH...
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It would be interesting to see how a lot of older designs would fare against modern designs if the old ones could be built lighter.

Re: Need Help with Hobie 18 [Re: DHO] #28271
01/26/04 01:43 PM
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D.,

That's actually not how I heard it...the Hobie 18 was Hobie's reaction to the Nacra 5.2 (and the 5.2 at 17' was still very competative). It would be interesting to hear where the truth lies - anyone?


Jake Kohl
Re: Need Help with Hobie 18 [Re: Mary] #28272
01/26/04 03:02 PM
01/26/04 03:02 PM
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Hi Mary -Hi or rather Mahalo David ,-Ha Jake,-
howdy Psailor
agree WITH ALL -

ITS COLD here in Mi ,--minus 11 F OR SOMETHING REDICULAS ,And a big snowstorm on the way .
whew ,having lived in Hawai and S Florida in earlier years these long MI winters get tough at times ,-but do enjoy X C sking,-ICE FISHING .Hockey , etc
anyway - another boat restoration project ,--and story on how it started .-
I picked up a H-18 last year from an old friend moving to Calif ,-it had a trailex with it and purchased all for about half the cost of the alum. trailex trailer -
needed a new trailer for the I-20 .
THEN found a trailer for 200 ,but it had another H-18 on it !! but only the basic platform ,-no mast or sails ,-so I have that also .
Thought I might take it and remove all the added weight ,cut off the deck lip , grind out all excess fg .
repaint etc etc ,-
then get a modern lightweight mast and sails w snuffer spin and have a great familiar old friend to sail in lighter more hi-performance form with added spin snuffer.

It seems some enterprizing person could obtain the non -used, non -built, discontinued H-18 molds from H and find the source of crossbeams etc and offer this boat to nostalga cat sailors --{like me },--think there would be a market for it ,
It would certainly be a wonderfull distance race boat .

They would be much like classic reproduction cars that are built to look just like the classic originals but have modern building methods and materials inside .

The fun aspect is they could be much faster than their new replacement 18 counterparts .

Last edited by sail6000; 01/26/04 06:48 PM.

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