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Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page

Posted By: Brian_Mc

Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 12:18 AM

Rick an Mary, When I open the Catsailor homepage, I am missing the right hand side of the page. I can't read the articles because so much isn't there. Is there some setting you can direct me to to fix this? Thanks, Brian
Posted By: Boomer

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 06:37 AM

Indeed, there's a white space on the right side of the page.
Should there be something? When I look into the source-code I can't see nothing that should appear in that space.
Maybe the page has been resized to a smaller width.

Probably for some narrowminded people in the post about "Taipan cost?"
Posted By: Tony_F18

Make you an offer you cant refuse... - 07/21/05 06:58 AM

Maybe the advertisers didnt pay up... ;);)

(Rick is probably out right now "persuading" them to pay, I've heard his car has a big boot ;))
Posted By: Wouter

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 10:24 AM

I think Rick himself is using a low screen resolution, it would explain why he recently complained that pictures in post are screwing body of text in them (as in having to scroll horizontally). It would make sense that the other webpage are configured to fill out the same screen resolution. Ergo leave a large white space to the right.

Wouter
Posted By: BrianK

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 01:13 PM

The width of the front page table is set at 700 pixels...

table width="700"

If you are runnning your computer monitor at 800x600 resolution it will fill most of the screen. If you are running at a higher resolution it will only fill part of the screen. Im running at 1280x1024 so almost half is white space (1280-700 = 580 pixels of white space).

All the information should be there, it just may not fill your screen.

Posted By: RickWhite

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 01:44 PM

What browsers and versions are you using. It may be something specific to the browser you are using. let me know and we can look into this further.
Rick
Posted By: Mary

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 04:22 PM

Well, good luck. I have been asking Rick for the past couple of years why the starboard third of my home page is blank. I'm happy to hear that I am not the only one.

However, it does not interfere with the objects and text on the page -- my page has all the right stuff but is just narrower than my monitor screen. So this is not the same problem that Brian has, apparently.
Posted By: Robi

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 05:41 PM

I see the space in both Internet Explorer and Firefox, both are latest versions. As stated above the issue is a resolution issue, not a webiste or a browser issue.

It is something that us folks that use high resolutions have to deal with. Lots of websites do this. One quick and easy way to resolve it is centering the table.
Posted By: Jake

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 07:25 PM

The table width specified in the main page is 700 pixels and that's why we're seeing the blank side. If it were set to 100% instead of specifiying a pixel width, it would spread the home page out to cover the whole page.

This is something recent though - right? I don't remember there being a white space over there.
Posted By: RickWhite

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 08:12 PM

And I have never seen it either. That is why I asked what browser is being used.
Rick
Posted By: CraigO

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 09:10 PM

I am using an Apple 23" Widescreen, with the Safari Browser, FireFox and IE and the whole home page is shifted to the left with a huge white space to the right so maybe the site could use a resolution adjustment now that screen resolutions are getting larger these days?
Posted By: Jake

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/21/05 11:17 PM

You know what? Bonnie agrees - it's always been that way. I never really noticed. However, I made some copies and played with the layout some (this should blow your mind).

http://www.teamseacats.com/jake/catsailor/catsailor_index1.html

http://www.teamseacats.com/jake/catsailor/catsailor_index2.html
Posted By: jfint

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/22/05 12:02 AM

Jake you own your own company right? I remember my dad had lots of time one his hands at work just before he retired ;-)
Posted By: dartfast

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/22/05 01:00 AM

Always thought it was just my computer. When I used Jakes first link I finally saw the right hand side of the home page for the first time. Using Msn Explorer, I Think. Always had the right side of the page cut off. All the other pages work fine.

Terry
Posted By: Darryl_Barrett

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/22/05 01:42 AM

Using a "Mac" and "Netscape" there is no problem!
Posted By: Mary

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/22/05 07:17 AM

Brian Mc,
You said
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When I open the Catsailor homepage, I am missing the right hand side of the page. I can't read the articles because so much isn't there.


Can you clarify? Does the home page fill up your whole monitor screen -- and more -- so that you can't see all of the text and ad on the right side of the page?

Or do you have the complete home page but narrower than your full monitor screen, so there is white space on the right side?

I just puzzles me that you say you cannot read all of the text on the home page.

In the case of myself and other people, we have the complete page, but it just doesn't fill up the whole monitor screen. It's not like anything is missing.

In your case you are saying that "so much isn't there."
Posted By: Jalani

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/22/05 08:05 AM

I vote for index1.

That's the 100% setting, right?

I tried switching resolutions and it looks good in all.
Posted By: SOMA

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/22/05 12:25 PM

This problem is only on the first page, right? I don't have this problem and my Mac screen is running at 1024 x 768. If I stretch the window on the first page I see there is white space to the right that does not fill up, but on the discussion forums there is no space to the right, and if I expand the window it just fills in.
Posted By: CraigO

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/22/05 12:36 PM

Hey Jake,
index1.html really stretches it out on my widescreen, I kinda like it. Index2 just centers the page.
Either way, this website is great however it works on my monitor.
Posted By: Brian_Mc

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/22/05 09:07 PM

Mary and Rick, I'm using Internet Explorer's latest version/update. I get exactly what Jake showed. The right hand side of the page is missing. Can't read the articles because so much text isn't there...Jake, what is it I should be doing/adjusting to get the whole thing? Otherwise I may have to get it posted on Seacats! PS: I may get out for my first sail of the summer tomorrow!
Posted By: Brian_Mc

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/22/05 09:12 PM

Mary, Sorry not to answer all your questions! It fills my screen, but the right hand side is white where there should be text. I think it only happens with the Home page.
Posted By: Robi

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/22/05 11:19 PM

Hey Brian I seriously think it would be best if you took a screenshot and posted it. That way we can all see whats going on with you, and we can help out.
Posted By: Brian_Mc

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/23/05 01:59 AM

Robi, I'm afraid I don't have the vaguest idea how to do a "screen Shot". I am missing the right quarter of the page top to bottom. Just a white strip where there should be text and pictures. I'll be back Sunday night to see everyone's answers. Thanks!
Posted By: RickWhite

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/23/05 12:39 PM

Hi Brian,
To do a screen shot, open the page in question, then hit the button that says "Print Screen" on your keyboard. Located above the 6 keys that have Insert, Home, Page Up, Delete, End and Page Down.
Now you will have a picture on your clipboard.
Then you can paste it into almost any program (i.e., wordpad, word, etc.) and then let us see the file as an attachment.

I certainly cannot understand the missing text. Meanwhile, I have been in discussion about the sizing thing with my tech guy. He says the industry standard is 700 pixels, but if I want to I could make it 100%. There could be problems with the overall layout, however, if I change the template.
Next week I might have some time to play around with it and see what happens.
Stand by for a crash! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Rick
Posted By: dartfast

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/24/05 01:28 PM

This is the Home Page I get: Missing Right side.

Hope this helps.

Terry

Attached picture 54216-Catamaran Sailor Main Page Paint 7-24-05.JPG
Posted By: Robi

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/24/05 02:57 PM

I noticed you are using MSN explorer. Does it occur with Internet Explorer as well?
Posted By: Mary

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/24/05 03:13 PM

Dartfast,
Yes, that helps a lot! Thank you! That must be what Brian is talking about, too.

That is totally different from having the whole page but just narrower.

Very weird. And not good.
Posted By: clarke

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/24/05 05:27 PM

The site has always had the width set to 700 pixles. This was set to fit most standard screen width of 800x600 or greater. The 700 width is also the total width of the catsailor logo and rotating banners across the top.

It is odd how that msn browser is cutting the page off. Does it cut the following page off:

http://www.catsailor.com/test_index.html

That test page is set to 100% width.
Posted By: dartfast

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/24/05 09:09 PM

The Hotlink http://www.catsailor.com/test_index.html does not cut the right side of the page off. It shows a full screen of the page but eliminates the right side bar that Verizon DSL has for quick links to; Inbox/Messenger/appointments/stocks/weather.

Terry
Posted By: dartfast

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/24/05 09:35 PM

Must not be the browser. This is a screen shot using my Yahoo browser. Still missing the right side. It has always been that way even on a different computer and a different service. Thought everyone saw it that way.

Terry

Attached picture 54233-Yahoo Browser Catamaran Sailor Main Page Paint 7-24-05.JPG
Posted By: Tony_F18

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/24/05 10:15 PM

The Yahoo browser is probably just using the Internet Explorer rendition engine.
Firefox has an independent engine, download Firefox at http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
Posted By: Jake

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/24/05 10:20 PM

I do NOT have that problem...I've checked with both Internet Explorer (6.0) and Firefox.
Posted By: Robi

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/24/05 11:01 PM

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I do NOT have that problem...I've checked with both Internet Explorer (6.0) and Firefox.
Same here
Posted By: Brian_Mc

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/25/05 03:14 AM

Yes! That is what I'm talkin about! The other "test" page is complete. I better read the rest of the posts before I go on...
Posted By: Brian_Mc

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/25/05 03:17 AM

Jake, You are a "Techy", what's my problem?
Posted By: MarineTurtle

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/25/05 06:23 AM

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Jake, You are a "Techy", what's my problem?


The problem occurs with IE based browsers when using an increased text size.

It seems to be caused by the search form at the top of the page pushing the ad too far to the right. As a quick fix, you can use a fixed size font for the search form (see attachment).

Attached File
54251-fix.txt  (25 downloads)
Posted By: Brian_Mc

Re: Can't Get Catsailor Homepage as Complete Page - 07/29/05 03:03 PM

It worked! Rick whatever you did I now get the whole page! THANK YOU! PS: Check out my fish tale at www.wetasschronicles.com . Scroll down 'til you see the guy in the orange jacket, my story follows.
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