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#276289 11/18/14 10:42 AM 11/18/14 10:42 AM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Either of those would probably be a good choice. The T2 hasn't been around that long so there likely isn't much available for used boats. The Getaway has been around quite a while though. The nice thing about both of these boats is that the hulls are borderline indestructible when compared to a composite boat.
Neither is really a performance boat, or has much that you can race against if that is what you are interested in. Used Hobie 16's can be picked up pretty reasonably, just about everyone on here has either owned one, or started on one. Good boats, very quirky. Beware of some older models as it may take more to make them safe than they are worth.
If you are new to sailing, and catamarans, I'd stay away from F16's, or F18's until you are more comfortable. They're technical, power up very quickly, and can be a bit daunting until you know what you are doing.
A Hobie Wave might be a good choice as well.
I'm boatless.
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#276291 11/18/14 10:45 AM 11/18/14 10:45 AM |
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Posts: 11 North Texas | thanks...I dont think im ready for racing now...although the GT300.com looks interesting . My main concern is whether or not i will be able to rig them up by myself and then sail...Im sure rigging up and getting in the water will be most difficult..
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#276292 11/18/14 10:45 AM 11/18/14 10:45 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Good Morning...Im fairly new to sailing...( got one summer on a J24).
I would like to get something to sail that i can do by myself if necessary and pull to different lakes around north texas. Would also like to be able to carry 2 or 3 people.. Ive been looking at the hobie getaway or T2. Would I be able to put this in the water and rig it up myself??
Thanks in advance.. Keith Keith, you are probably pretty close to a good choice with either one of those. The Getaway is going to be easier to rig and be a little better carrying more people weight. The T2 is going to be a little higher performance, have a real trapeze option, but may take a little longer to rig.
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#276296 11/18/14 01:43 PM 11/18/14 01:43 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | is it the shape of the sail that makes the t2 higher performance? the getaway seems to have more sail area and only like 2 more lbs. I assume its the shape that gives it less power? I presume it would be hull shape and the lack of trapeze - but I'm primarily basing that assessment on a brief review of what's been advertised. I haven't seen a T2 in real life.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: New Sailor needs advice
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#276305 11/18/14 08:50 PM 11/18/14 08:50 PM | MN3
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Unregistered | if it is in fantastic shape... sure, but seems a bit high to me for a 13 year old boat when a brand new one is 9k ( http://www.hobiecatsnorthwest.com/catamarans.html ) unless your buying from a shop/dealer, I allways recommend you rig and sail any cat you buy. that verifies all the parts are there, you can take notes on how to rig it (or video) and then you can make sure it has no leaks .... i wouldn't buy a car without driving it ps my first hobie16 was 20+years old and i bought it for 1200 my TheMightyHobie18 was also 20+ and i paid $400 for it (guy wanted it out of his front yard) If you have deeper pockets i would look a bit more this winter for a better deal or newer boat | | | Re: New Sailor needs advice
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#276309 11/19/14 09:34 AM 11/19/14 09:34 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | You can do anything by yourself once you learn how, but it will help speed you up the learning curve if you first go to a catamaran regatta, or at least go out on a cat with someone who's experienced and can show you the little tricks that make rigging alone much easier.
That boat on Craig's List seems a bit overpriced, but you might be able to talk him down. You should be able to rig it alone and launch it alone pretty quickly, once you learn how, but as I said, there are lots of little tricks that will make it much easier for you, like using the halyard to hold the mast up while you pin the forestay, and parking it downhill while you rig, etc.
Welcome to the Dark Side, once you get out on the wire on a good windy day and fly across the water on one hull, you won't go back to that J24!
I owned/raced a J24 30 years ago, but once I got addicted to catamaran speeds, I've never considered going back to a keel boat!
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#276312 11/19/14 09:54 AM 11/19/14 09:54 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | and about the price on the craigslist boat...i believe it does include the trailer.. Mariner sails is quoting my 7900 for the boat and about another 1000 for delivery and setup.. around 2500 bucks for the trailer.....then its 1200 for the seats... it all adds up to around 13000 i believe when all said and done $13,000 for a Getaway?? Oh my god NO! There are MUCH cheaper ways to get out on the water on a used catamaran, especially if you are not racing. My first cat was an old Hobie 18 I got out of a backyard, with the trailer, for $750. I then put $200 into the trailer mostly for new wheel bearings, bought new wheels/tires (Walmart, $30 each) I installed new lights (Walmart, $25) and replaced the most faded lines (main sheet and halyard) on the boat, rigged it alone and sailed it for two years, sold it for $2500. Right now I've got a Prindle 18 I paid $500 for, without a trailer, and a Hobie 14 I also got for $500, but with a trailer. Those are my two beater boats for playing around on the lake. My racing boat is an F16, but I bought that used for less than $13,000, six years ago.
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#276313 11/19/14 09:58 AM 11/19/14 09:58 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | See if you can find a used Hobie 18 or Prindle 18. There are thousands of used Hobie 16's but if you want to put more than two people on it, it's not big enough.
The Hobie or Prindle 18 would be much better for more than two people but they are a little harder to find just because there were fewer of them built.
Oh, and the roller furling jib that those boats have is a great help when you are alone and the wind comes up!
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#276315 11/19/14 10:11 AM 11/19/14 10:11 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | thanks ..i will keep an eye on craigslist......any other good sites for cat sales? This site has a classifieds section and www.thebeachcats.com is another good place to keep an eye on. Timbo, that $13k I believe was for a new Getaway. I have no idea where that lands in the grand scheme of new cats but it sounds a little pricey for a rotomolded boat. What is a new Hobie 16 selling for now?
Jake Kohl | | | Re: New Sailor needs advice
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#276317 11/19/14 11:26 AM 11/19/14 11:26 AM |
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | What is a new Hobie 16 selling for now? North of $10k for just the boat
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