I have an f18 Hobie Tiger, thanks for the recomendation, but it isnt a Hobie 18, a boat made for the beach. Your "remark" about reasearch sounds like you want to just bust my chops about a post but I will give you the benifit of the doubt and not assume you are a dick. But if a manufacturer can reduce the weight by as much as they have beeen. could we get a boat that can still be a real beach cat and have the featues of an F18.(I am not sure the Get a way is the answer)