>>>I will do my best to answer your questions and try to figure out why you are becoming so hostile.
*Hello, we are trying to solicit help to get some H14's and parts for our junior/youth
sailing program.
..Once again state your organization.
>>I am more than willing to email you with this information if you would like! Just indicate if you would like me to do this.
*So any info anyone would have on H14's that people would like to donate to our junior program (using the H16 for our youth age kids - donations in this area are also appreciated) would be greatly Appreciated.
..You ask for donations, but in the same post purchasing from overseas, an organization in dire need would not be taking such approaches.
>>Because we are writing for some grants that might help us get a few new Hobie 14’s.
*We are also budgeting some funding to get some new H14's shipped in from Hobie Europe or Hobie Brazil.
..Hobie 16 is 12,250$ Stripped plus shipping, enough said on this issue concerning pricing and conversion.
>>>Did I say we were shipping Hobie 16’s? If you look at the sentence you copied it has the abbreviation H14’s, which means Hobie 14 not H16/Hobie 16.
*So if anyone wants a NEW H14, the more we order the cheaper the boats will be.
..Please tell us price, for purchase of 1 from either Brazil or Europe.
>>>Last time I spoke with Hobie USA it was $6,100.00, but will be less depending on how many boats are ordered at one time.
*We will be ordering H14's as standard and in the turbo option. So, make your orders now.
..Gee, need donation and in the same post purchasing from overseas markets. Why not ebay there is more than 10 boats for sale on any month. The statement make your order, to whom the wind it seems you and your organization doesn't want to be in public light to a point not even a website.
>>>Thanks for the ebay information. We want people to order boats so the price of the new Hobie 14’s will be less, when and if the grants come through. By the way we have a very nice website.
*We are located in Washington State.
..Where, whom, when and why applies.
..There is something not right, much like the old song "beware the winds of early November".
>>>Mike if you don’t like the info we are looking for then why are you wasting your time replying. Seems to me you must be a Mystere dealer or something. Our club members are actually located two counties of Washington and Idaho State.
>>>Now in regards to your second post:
..Hi, C. You have BAD information. There were no kids or adults from west of Michigan at the 2002 USSA Youth Cat Nationals so your kids could NOT have made a determination about the Mystere 4.3 from actual experience.
>>>First off we said “some kids” not our kids, and based on their evaluation and a US Sailing Assoc. member evaluation we felt that information was good enough for us. Plus, the evaluation indicated the Dragoon is a better boat. So actually, we would go with the Dragoon before ever thinking about purchasing a 4.3.
..I have sailed the Hobie 14, THAT is why I say it is hard to get excited about it. The Mystere 4.3 has main, jib, and spinnaker w/ snuffer that can be sailed w/ any combination of those sails and w/ one or two people competively. It has much more buoyancy than the H-14 and will cost less than a new H-14. The Mystere 4.3 has very responsive handling and will train kids from beginners to advanced, including the use of a spinnaker which is quickly becoming common on cats.
>>>The Hobie 14 has a main, jib, is very responsive, has more than enough buoyancy for kids, and is perfect for kids. Once again it’s the kids choice not the adults of our club.
..Now if you want to just get Hobie 14s for some reason, then knock yourself out but do not portray it as a decision reached after actually comparing the boats listed because that is just not the truth.
>>>I don’t know where you get off telling us it is not the truth, I have more than told you how it was accomplished, but it seems you are bent on make our experience on this form a negative one. As one of the kids in the club who has read your comments said, “man what is his problem.”
>>>I have told you twice that I was more than willing to email you individually, but it seems this is not good enough for you.
OK! I sure hope I will not regret this and that my kids will not get an email from a MIke Psycho, if this is in fact your name, but here is our website address any ways:
http://www.sail-s.com/main/sail/Sailing_Group/Sailing_Group_MAIN.htmAnd here is the section with one of our kids information. I have to add we have not gotten all the kids on the website yet, nor many of this years sailing pictures, particularly the multihull pictures but will try to get this done soon. Once again this is a VERY NEW WEBSITE!
http://www.sail-s.com/main/sail/Sailing_Group/racing_team.htmI hope this makes you happy Mike! And be nice to the kids!