Flumpmaster, I think I got the idea but as you say it probably takes a lot of practice. Have been out yesterday with 20+ and quite big waves but even going down the waves with both hulls in the water would result in some though stuffs. Conditions were such however that we did not try to go "hot" anymore, we were just happy not to pitchpole <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> By the way, my crew is a surfer too and he really enjoys surfing with such a bg board <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />