I'm sure that's one of Dermonts old kites as there's not a lot of difference in weight between a HOD35 and Spit <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> In this attachment I'm teaching my kids from a very early age what do with leadmine sails..... Cut them up and recycle them into something more useful i.e F16 Snuffers.