The 470 was a great boat "in it's day" but that day was in about 1985. I don't know why they are still using them, I thought the 49'r was supposed to replace it but they must have a really good lobby group (i.e. big money donations) to keep it in the games, but what about the Star?? How old (and slow) is that thing? About 100 years? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />