$450 sounds like a good deal, the tramp is probably ok as the hiking straps usually rot and break first. most of the boats in our club fleet are fixer uppers and most are illegal. we still have a ball racing, and a couple of these guys are very competitive at the district level. anyway i kept my 14t for singlehanding and hope i can get my daughters to take it over. its a great boat, especially if youre light.