OK gents, here is what we have:

Rudder Rake = 1" forward using the straight edge transom method as outline in the Prindle owners manual and Jay Glaser's 18-2 Turning Tips worksheet. To note, there is no room left on the adjuster bolt to get any more forward rake.

Mast Rake (used two methods)

A.) Trap Line - ran rope to the bridal tang that move after to where the mark intersected the the sheer edge of the boat. This was 5" aft the rear cross beam. This is suppose to fall about half way between the shroud plate and the rear beam

B.) Did the tape rule/main halyard method as outlined in Jay Glaser's Prindle 18-2 Tuning tips and this was 28' 6" the minimum for this is 28' 9.5" and the maximum is 28' 11" which would be too little rake.

Both of these are telling me I have too much mast rake, which explain the heavy weather helm and why the boat wants to turn right up the minute I let off of the helm. And here is the problem; my forstay adjuster is already adjusted all the way in with no further adjustment left to move the mast forward.

So the only other conclusion I have is that my upper forestaty or something else on my rigging is not right, or it is and I need to shorten something to get the rigging to where I can get into the ball park for adjusting.

Any other ideas?

Thanks for you help gents, appreciated