Thanks for the reply Matt, my cat can be sailed either 1 or 2 up as I sail alone I will have heaps of volume in the front so the trap wings would suit me fine. Can the H16 be raced 1 up? that would lighten the pitching, add some mast rake. Dosent the trap wing extend way back behind the tiller? Could you put some flares on the front of the hulls im sure i have seen them before on a cat. This would help stop the pitch pole and so cheap and easy to do. I can see some big changes coming to multi hulls with the Americas Cup now racing in multis. Kinda a slap in the face for the ISAF for kiking the T. HA HA