G'day Brian it depends on your price range really, a small rig Stingray would be cheap, big rig Stingray dearer, older 5.8 dearer then the 5.7 dearer again unless you can get a timber one somewhere. Thats the order I've gone through in cats and they all have theyre good points. Once you get to about $7000 upwards you can look at Nacra F18's, theyre terrific value for a modern cat.