I believe we've been down that road ...as I recall we were supposed to go for a sail wind was probably 18-20 and you didnt even get past the dock,,,,went back in and said something about a new sail.....and then the times over at buck...mmm dont remember you beating me to the windward but once maybe......I was so far ahead of you I tacked twice cause I understood the mark and still beat you.....so now what are you going to say.....