True, but there must be some ballpark estimates. For example, Jeremy's reporting 4 times windspeed downwind, in what windspeed, and does that translate at different windspeeds?
Mike
We've heard everything from 4 times windspeed (which can't be accurate IMHO) to 40 degree tacking angles. The one thing you can count on is that you can't count on anything you hear. Most casual observers that get close to either animal are so excited that their estimates are wildly exaggerated.