OK then, which is fastest upwind a DNA A class or the latest all singing and dancing 10ft wide Melvin designed F20C. My money would have to say more times than not the A class.

Ah now I quote from the DNA's own website "This weekend PJ sailed in Hellevoetsluis in force 5-6 in such a set-up (increased mastrake, striff battens) and he could easily beat a Nacra 20 carbon and the F18's upwind by saling both higher and faster (downwind the Nacra was a rocket).

Now if everything can be believed from the internet