Originally Posted by Isotope42
Originally Posted by Jake
I still haven't heard a clear explanation of the rights and wrongs here.

I hadn't chimed in yet because I thought mbounds had already given a correct and complete application of the rules (referring to an ISAF case as well). Citing the match racing call book can be problematic in the context of fleet racing, but I didn't see any conflict in this instance. Would a step-by-step analysis help out?

A boat is not generally required to anticipate the actions of another boat, just to react to what she is doing as she does it. That reaction has to be "prompt", and "seamanlike". Those terms, unfortunately, are a little vague, so I can't give you a definitive answer. The advice one of the senior judges in my area gave me was to substitute the phrase "without delay" for "prompt". That is, "prompt" does not mean "immediate", but it does mean no stalling. The term "seamanlike" is harder to interpret. At the SAYRA Judges Committee meeting last year, we had an hour-long discussion of what skill level "seamanlike" construed. We didn't reach a consensus. Some judges felt "seamanlike" meant expert, some average. My own opinion is that it means competent. That is, you are expected to handle your boat competently. If the boat can reasonably do something, you should be able to make her do it.

That said, when an overtaking boat becomes overlapped to leeward (gaining right-of-way), the windward boat is expected to act to keep clear (if necessary) competently and without delay. If the leeward boat heads up (changes course), then the windward boat must again act competently and without delay. If that entails sheeting in to build speed and gain steerage, then W must do so smartly.

I hope that helps,
Eric


OK...I have no issue with the fact that he can take me above close hauled prior to the start but I still question the timing related to the speed at which this event can take place and my lack of maneuverability. I don't know if he's just going to zoom through my lee and head for the line or if he's going to change direction to start to take me up - so I shouldn't be required to sheet in prior to his overlap in anticipation of a potential maneuver on his part. Only after the overlap is established and he starts to take me up do I have to react. If I'm parked and not moving this could take a little time and I actually need to accelerate slightly on my present heading in order to start my turn.

From his perspective, it's pretty easy for him to take my bow off - from mine, it's very difficult for me to avoid him with any kind significant speed difference between us after overlap is established with close proximity.

So, clearly the hail "I'm close hauled" was incorrect in this situation. However, this boils down to leeward providing time and opportunity and me needing to show an adequate reaction once A) overlap is established and B) leeward starts to take me up...correct?


Jake Kohl