We need to define what is youth and what is a junior boat. Junior in the ISAF is 12 – 16, and Youth is 17 – 21. So the question is what is a good junior cat and that is why I thought a Turbo H14 would work as most juniors are light and the H14 would be great as a 2 person cat but then again maybe not, and maybe we should use it just as a solo cat for juniors instead and maybe we should develop different rigs for the H14 as well. The whole point is having a junior boat that is a preparatory boat for the H16. I started out on El Toro’s at age 6, and moved to the H14 at age 11, and finally went on to the H16 around age 14 (continued to sail the H14 as well). I also like the Opti for the very young but the problem is they are way to expensive for me to by 4 of them for my kids. So for the very young some little 7 to 8 ft. dinghy would work (I am using the Access Dinghy 2.3) but when they start getting to the age of 10 – 12 its time to move to a cat and that is the age range when we all need to decide what cat to indorse as a JUNIOR (not youth – the youth cat is the H16) cat. I think the choice is fairly simple its either the H14 or Wave, but once again I just do not think the Wave is the boat to prepare our kids or kid to sail in the youth worlds (on the H16) and H16 worlds but then again I may be wrong. Lets keep this dialogue going! I have not been talking to my daughter about this and so I need to do so, lets make sure to include our kid(s) in this process, and to have juniors and youth age sailors also give us their input as we have had by one youth so far.<br><br>