Stainless won't work? Karl Brogger uses something called "riv nuts" and seems to like them.

I was just kidding about ice on Tim's lake. Such an event would probably kill every orange tree in Florida down to its roots. [then maybe we could get away from cheap labor agriculture, but that's another story]


Pete Pollard
Blade 702

'When you have a lot of things to do, it's best to get your nap out of the way first.