Not nearly complex enough of a description for Jake. I'm not even going to attempt an example, but if you don't know what I mean go read his post in the Manshed thread about his vacuum pump. He's serious about vacuum.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
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