Also i'me selling the set of the new style ports/hatches with the outer ring/flanges and the hardware. They are black, this is what i intended to install on my boat but never had the time. They are made by Viking Marine, part# is V1146 i think, same size as the pop-in stle, hatch 6" wide and outer ring is 8" wide. $24 includes shipping, see them here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/251025889072?item=251025889072&viewitem=&vxp=mtr