Yup I have to agree with Charlie he was past your elbow at age 10 JW LOL but hey Charlie you can single hand that thing, think about it a team of one, skipper and crew al in the same and when we see you yelling at your self we won't have to wounder and your bride to be won't be well she can sail with someone else and there won't be any disputes at home HUM just a thought ! ! ! ! !