Rick, I wish you'd make a politics only forum. I like the cauldron as a name.

It would generate a lot of traffic and people who don't like politics would know not to come in.

In any case Tback provided a a cite yesterday in argument to some of my posts, this is what I've gotten from it so far.

* The needs of government and banking never mix
* government has always distrusted bankers
* paper money works