>>Re: Interested in evidence - or just full of BS? <br> <br>Quite a judgemental header. But Okay here is my reply. <br> <br>>>Did you watch "Behind the Veil" last night on CNN? If so, I'd be interested to hear what you think of the Taliban now...and to what you think the proper response to that totalitarian dictatorship should be. <br> <br> <br>No I didn't see and if you reread my posts than you will find that I already indicated that I was already aware of these thing for some time. And I mean several months prior to WTC attack. <br> <br>And I still say that the afghan problem is far more complex than what apparently many think. A simple strike will NOT hurt Bin Laden, probably impacts heaviliest on the simple folk that are indeed suffering already, polerize the arabic world, destabilize Pakistan and Saoedi Arabia further and very probably entflame the missed terrorist further opening up the USA for more attacks. <br> <br>I know that the reasoning is that "you want to show them that america will strike back and thus give off o signal of willingness to retaliate after a next time. Thus hoping that this will scare them off" Sadly, these terrorist don't think this way. That is the real problem the USA and WE are faced with. <br> <br>Strike them with succes and they become matyrs, The Survivors will call on the tradition of blood feut and create a new network with the goal of tacking revenge on the USA again. Ghandi said : An eye for an eye ends up making the whole world blind. And in this particular situation he is absolutely right. <br> <br>Try to strike them but miss and hitting normal people will outrage the Arabic world and work up more anti USA and Anti -Israeli sentiment EVEN THOUGH ISRAEL ISN"T EVEN INVOLVED NOW. But they see it as one pact. And they will act on the views they posses. Our views are irrelivant to them. <br> <br>Try to strike and miss everything will make the USA loose face and show that the terrorist can get awasy with actions like this. They already believe that Vietnam and Russian afghan wars have shown that superpowers can be beaten by small capable querilla groups. Chechnia is anotjer proof in their eyes. <br> <br>There is no simple answer ! Simple answers have enormous potential to back fire in this complex situation. And our main goal should be to prevent more attacks like the WTC I say. If WE or the USA has to swallow a bit of pride to achieve this result than so be it. For I personally refuse to sacrifice more innocent people because USA acts, understandibally ofcourse, on feelings of vengence and anger. <br> <br>Nations are sensitive to retaliative strikes, terrorist groups are nearly insensitive to it. That is why this is not a War but more a fight or Quest against terrorism. <br> <br>Even toppling this totalitairian regime won't hit the Terrorist organisations much. Sadly it's biggest effect will be to ease our minds. And even more sadly it will plunge the Afghan people into another chaotic period of internal power struggles between tribes and nation (Iran, pakistan, USA) backed groups. Ofcourse, many hate this regime but at the moment they hate instability even more for it will destroy the few resources and fruits of their labour that they still have left too. Ofcourse the women is severly mistreated but they will be mistreated EVEN worse when they get caught in the middle of tribal wars. And when we cause this just to satisfy our feeling of justice and revenge than I'm even more ashamed than when I heard the first news flashes about mosks and arabic people being attacked in the western world because of our sentiments as a result of the WTC attack. <br> <br>No somebody on this forum said it right. Terrorsim is a mind game, much like a game of chess (I add) and impatience and unbalances moves are sure loosers in this game. Lets not fall for the sacrifice trap where the enemy lures us to gain a bishop by a bold strike and thus creates whole in our own overall stance on the board. <br> <br> <br>>>If you didn't watch it, I recorded it and would be more than happy to mail it to you if you'll e-mail me your address. <br> <br>Thank you for the offer, I will probably get the change to see it on CNN international one of these days. Moreso because we use the PAL TV protocol overhere and you in USA use NDSC. So my video couldn't play your tape. Sorry. <br> <br>Regards, <br> <br>Wouter <br> <br> <br><br><br>
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