Understand me that its not my goal to end this forum nor do I have the power to do this. As I indicated before I will continue to use this forum as I always have. The www.hobiecat.com/community/ forums have people who do not come here and I think its the same here, so I don't see much of a change any ways, other than some of the H16 sailors I know that visit this site indicated to me that they will also now be using the other forum. Its been great and will continue to be great to have this forum. Once again thanks Rick.