Thanks John <br> <br> The policically correct , clever answer on boat weight . <br> There is a good post by Maurizzio on the open forum ,quotting Dick Newick on weight cost considerations, same answer with a little more detail and info. <br> <br>-We are trying here in the U S , but have inherited a mess of conflicts to try to resolve. <br> All the best - <br> Carl <br><br>