Phil, we have now kept the results of seven greatly varying races, ranging from the Goolwa to Milang, Milang Easter regatta, and races at Adelaide. These races have been over the extreme of conditions and distances/times, so that overall there is a distinct pattern emerging that, hopefully after we have accumulated another ten or so representative results we can say with some certainty just what yardstick is applicable. All these results have been posted to the VYC to use to set an accurate yardstick for the F14's that should be included in next years book, but at this point in time, it would appear that the appropriate yardstick should be around VYC 77 - 78. That is not to say that this may or may not raise or lower when there is a larger bank of documented results available.