Hi Jerry,

I have sailed extensivley against Hobie 17's with wings, especialy when I was sailing the Mosquito before spinnaker. In OZ most of the sailors on 17's where older gentleman who certainly enjoyed the comforts the wings provide, as you describe. I have always thought they would be a good boat to retire to.

But seriously, the 17's generaly only outperformed the Mossie in light winds so the wings didn't seem to allow them to apply more power in strong winds. By the way the Mossie is only 7'2' wide.

From my experience when you sail a optimised F16 they are already very wide and powerful, I realy don't think you need more. But the comfort factor is a whole different issue.

Regards Gary.