The problem for the Taipans here is that one of the sailors of those cats (one very competitive one at that) has already gone to an A class and the one that I think that you are referring to (kept in a shed) has been sailing a 505 but with big problems finding a crew, so his contribution is not missed as much, (although he did bring his boat out occasionally for a few major events and was up there with the top end of the fleet), and I don’t think the third one has shown any action in replacing that cat with anything else yet. So at present it seems that we have lost those sailors from the Tiapan fleet. I can't speak for the cat that went from Victoria, but, the three from South Australia were all very good competitive cats in excellent condition, they could form the nucleus for some close racing in China.