Hey Scoob ! you have to read all of the post !
you wrote :
you are constantly comparing the Inter 17's on the NL with your selves.
I have to take exception to this now:
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The reason is that they are not good sailors.
How do I know ?
After I had written in the same posting you take exception to :
I was never impressed by the Dutch Inter-17 race results but then again I think that the Dutch I-17s are the most downgraded boats of the nacra inter-17 or nacra-17 series. They seem to have the smallest mainsails and often sail without a spi while the FX-ones and F16 do pull their kites. I'm convinced that the US Inter-17R is a noticeable step up from the Dutch Inter-17's
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post containing this quote And in another posting of today (but before your posting) I also wrote :
Sadly, I don't have much personal sailing experience with the Nacra 17. I only sailed a few times against a nacra 17 and the fact that we never saw eachother after the start is almost exclusively caused by the fact that our sailing skills were nowhere comparable.
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posting containing the quote So I made all the explaining remarks that you have sought to introduce as corrections to my posts.
So in effect we are in full agreement and I never suggested otherwise in my posts.
In the remainder of your post you inteprete my words in a way that I cleary never intended them. I will not comment on that further with the exception of :
If the Handicaps are similar and the boats are not performing the same, one of 2 things is wrong
1, The cacluation/measurement system is wrong
2, The sailors are not of the same skill.
Well, I know the I-17 ratings numbers to be (texel/schrs) 110/1.07 while I'm sailing my F16 off (texel/schrs) 99/0.98 so if we are going by the numbers then the situation is clear enough. I only said (wrote) that my personal, on the water, experience resulted in nothing that contradicted these rating numbers. I saw these boats on the start line a fewe times and after that I never saw them again. Wether it is the crews or the boats is something the readers may determine. To be frank, I think it is a bit of both actually.
Of course I have never met the Inter-17R or Formula 17 or new Nacra 17 of course as the R version never really got into Europe for some reason and the others are still very much webpage-and-dealor-based-promises. Pardon my French in the last sentence. Lets face it; the US F17 is just a inter17R with a larger spinnaker for heavy skippers and the new EU nacra 17 is still to new to have been delivered to customers.
In addition, the thread is about the Aussie build inter-17 which is yet again a different animal then the US F17/Inter17R. So our F17 and I17R discussion may indeed be completely useless in the respect.
Mind you, that Aussie Inter-17 looks a whole lot more attractive than the EU and USA versions.
Regards,
Wouter
