2 adults and 2 kiddos = 450lbs dannyb i agree with you on the dome tent concept. ive got a 7x8 and if fits perfect on the tramp. domes are not the best when it comes to real windy conditions though. the good thing is that you can pick em up and move em around. we plan on sleeping in a tent off the boat unless i am absolutely sure there will be no incliment weather. something about sleeping under a 24ft lightning rod that bothers me. hey dannyb, you mentioned pulling a kayak with the hobie to carry your stuff. ive got a surf kayak and i want to take it so the kids can play on it when we arent sailing. did it track straight? did it stay right side up? its a surf kayak so its self draining. was boat handling harder ie tacks?