>>I would like to remind you that Jim Boyer developed, built and raced the Taipan 4.9 in 1988. And with a spinnaker.
Very true ! Still that spi they used in '88 was a few generations back from the spis that the boats use now. This field has seen quite some development over time.
SE- But the f16 class, and you, had nothing to do with it.
>>He figured out the "light boat thing" long ago.
As did the A-cat sailors and class, that is also were Jim got his inspiration from. So I guess we all continue to build on the foundations laid down by others.
SE- So now you know what Jim Boyer is thinking? But everyone else doesn't try to take credit for it.
>>The f16 class has had nothing whatsoever to do with the developement of ANY boat.
Actually, like kirt says the Stealth F16 is build to the rule and as a direct result of the foundation of the F16 class.
SE - BULL. The Stealth R was designed in 1996, before YOU ever heard of Stealth or Taipan. They made a few minor adjustments to fit the rule. Nothing resembling a "new" design.
A few of us are building our own versions of a F16 boat of which the most experimental one is currently build in the USA.
You may reply with just "Promises, promises" Then I underline that the boats currently build and being build as a direct result of the F16 class are :
-1- Stealth F16
SE- See above.
-2- My own F16 design called the Typhoon F16
SE- You stole the Taipan platform DESIGN, changed the name and put a taller mast on it and you call yourself a "Designer"? We were stretching the masts on our 18squares TEN YEARS ago, but we never called ourselves "Designers".
-3- The F16 design build by Bob H. in the USA with completely redesigned hulls
SE- Where has it raced? Where are the pictures? How many is he going to build? A one-off backyard boat does not count as another manufacturer.
Your own website has the facts a figures which continually prove you are a liar.
>>All of the f16 boats existed in some form before the class was ever dreamed of.
As Kirt indeicated, this is simply not true. As per above three different designs are currently being build of which one is already commercially offered.
SE- Yours IS NOT a design. Taipan, BIM16, Stealth R, Isotope are all real mfg boats that existed prior to you.
>>Give credit where credit is due, not where the most noise comes from.
Indeed, so how about giving us some more credit. A group of homebuilders, sailmakers, class enthousiasts and sailors are working very hard on new fully optimized designs, the webpage and the growth of the class. We are going strong, our forum page is very active, our homepage contains more content that the bulk of the other cat webpages outthere and the techies in our group are working on new designs and setups.
SE- Credit for what? Lightweight 16foot boat existed before you ever held a tiller. Half the posts on your website are you and Kirt, you even answer your own posts. You are stealing from Rick by posting boats and sails for sale without buying an ad.
Where is your boat by the way?
You keep changing your story about where it is, why it isn't built, shipping a mast from AUS, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
