All of this being said....does anyone know of an old boat here in Fl that I could turn into a backyard project? I think a Dingo would be kind of cool. If I remember correctly (if I am wrong please let me know) it was a MFG product with a solid tramp. Another foggy recolection was Gibbs built Sharks as well as an 18' version called a Phoenix. I think MFG may have produced these as well for a short period...again the memory is pretty foggy on this one. If anyone knows of a interesting boat (no H-14, H-16, or P-16s) please let me know. I have a Herrshoff gaff rig that I need to finish first, but I am alwas looking.