Kieth, wow, that clears things up a bit. I never looked at it that way. Good points.

But what if it works? Wouldnt we be shooting it down to early to critize and say it wont work?

Maybe its time we open up to "other" options. Sometimes what seems like a fluke, can turn into something good.

Like I said, me, myself would not mind a phrf number. If that is what it will take me to sail against other sail boats, by all means I am up for the challenge. Only the end results and collected data will prove if the system trully works or not.