I saw the Playcat at the Chicago Strictly Sail boat show in January. The retail price is $3999 which is pretty good compared to the Hobie Wave price of $3800. I was astounded to see that one of the dealers at that show was offering the Playcat for only $2500, but only at the show - no extension for thinking about it or whatever. That was such a huge deal! If I had not already owned five boats I would have taken that one home with me! It has a very interesting design to allow a narrow waterline while sailing singlehanded and then it quickly flairs out to carry four adults very well also - the best of both worlds! It is a very clean, well thought out design and I would like to sail it sometime.