| Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
[Re: Jake]
#91388 12/08/06 01:10 PM 12/08/06 01:10 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 105 Bloomington, IN jbecker
member
|
member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 105 Bloomington, IN | Agreed. But now look at a similar diagram with the mast on the windward side (and no trapezing) like we were talking about. The large majority of the sail pressure is offset by the buoyancy of the leeward hull, not the boat weight, in that arrangement. There would be very little boat weight on the side of the sail plan that provides the righting moment in your diagram. Who said you could move the crew around? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> They stay put when the rig is moved. How they actually get there with the sail in the way is not part of the theoretical argument. (If you change more than one variable, then it's impossible to discuss the effect of just moving the rig. Start with the crew in the middle if you like - the net effect will be the same). Righting moment is a torque. The total bouyancy and total weight forces are always equal. What changes is the moment arm. It makes no sense to talk about just bouyancy providing righting moment. Capsize moment is also a torque (sail pressure one way up high, dagger pressure the other way down low). The way to look at this is one torque countering the other torque. It makes little difference whether the force from the sail is left or right of the combined CG. Force diagrams of the sort I provided are a standard way of showing these things. English sometimes falls short.
Jeff Tiger 849
| | |
Entire Thread
|
Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Rolf_Nilsen | 12/05/06 04:57 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| gree2056 | 12/05/06 05:25 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| MauganN20 | 12/05/06 06:19 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Rolf_Nilsen | 12/05/06 07:25 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Wouter | 12/05/06 07:54 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| scooby_simon | 12/05/06 08:19 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Jake | 12/05/06 08:39 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| fin. | 12/06/06 12:10 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| bvining | 12/06/06 01:35 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Timbo | 12/06/06 02:12 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Wouter | 12/06/06 02:19 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| fin. | 12/08/06 11:07 AM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| bvining | 12/08/06 01:25 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Rolf_Nilsen | 12/08/06 02:07 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| bvining | 12/08/06 04:30 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Rolf_Nilsen | 12/08/06 05:25 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| bvining | 12/08/06 08:33 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Rolf_Nilsen | 12/08/06 08:50 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| grob | 12/09/06 08:20 AM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| phill | 12/09/06 10:10 AM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Wouter | 12/08/06 05:40 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Andinista | 12/06/06 02:22 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Todd_Sails | 12/07/06 05:38 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| srm | 12/07/06 05:56 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Jake | 12/08/06 12:18 AM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| jbecker | 12/08/06 06:04 AM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| Jake | 12/08/06 02:36 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| davidtilley | 12/08/06 03:08 PM |
Re: Latest, hottest, from Paris
| jbecker | 12/08/06 06:10 PM | |
|
0 registered members (),
329
guests, and 51
spiders. | Key: Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod | | Forums26 Topics22,406 Posts267,062 Members8,150 | Most Online4,027 Jul 30th, 2025 | | |