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Re: www.usmultihull.com [Re: Mark Schneider] #101167
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Rest assured, there are still things happening! The response to this issue by the catamaran community has been staggering and awe inspiring. Everyone is taking notice from the old-school sailors to the US Sailing board. I'm sure more information will be coming out soon.


Jake Kohl
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Re: www.usmultihull.com [Re: Jake] #101168
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The Multihull Council is still forging forward - we'll have the minutes from our Special Meeting up on the USSA website soon. They made a big sever move over the weekend and things are just now getting back to normal.

I have found that Mark's assertion is true - often, I am asked to not repeat or post something I'm told. Twice, I have said that I would not abide by the request, as I considered the information to be public and of great interest. Other times, it is in the interest of the multihull community that certain persons who divulge information feel safe in doing so. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Some might have noted that the US and Canadian submissions to ISAF were apparently not accepted. They do not appear on the agendas for the May meeting in Paris. There is additional indication that submissions will be due instead sometime before the November meeting. This gives us a little more time to make our case to the Board, but not much, as there will be discussions of "proposed events" and voting on a method of event selection during this upcoming meeting. All of this info is on the ISAF web site: www.sailing.org - look under Organization/Meetings/Forthcoming Meetings for a list of agendas and supporting papers.

In the mean time, the filing of a grievance with the USOC appears to be moving forward, though the USOC has indicated an electronic filing will not be accepted. Looks like there will be some folks going postal... using stamps, I mean... y'know? Snail mail? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

The Multihull Council has been hard at work, talking to members of the Board and the OSC to make the case for a multihull event in 2012. Things are definitely looking up, and that is directly attributable to people like Mary, Mark, Jake and over 650 of their friends taking an interest in multihull sailing's future. Nice. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


John Williams

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Re: www.usmultihull.com [Re: Jake] #101169
04/04/07 10:58 AM
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Until I get more answers back from US Sailing, here are at least a few things to think about. I asked the following questions of Gary Bodie, and his answers follow my questions:

In a message dated 3/28/2007 12:23:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mary@catsailor.com writes:

What names do you have as possible Olympic contenders in the multihull event after John Lovell and Charlie Ogletree retire?

What suggestions do you have for the multihull community to get more people qualified in a way that will be taken seriously by you and by the OSC?

Do you think it would make a difference if the Tornado were replaced by a boat that has a strong and growing presence in the United States and that would make it possible for people to train on home waters and get Europeans to come here to train, as well (at least in the winter)? I am talking, of course, about the Formula 18 and the A-Class.

Do you think it would help to have a single-hander (like the A-Class) replace the Tornado, since that would at least reduce the total number of people at the Olympics, which seems to be one of the IOC goals?


Mary;
These are my opinions and do not necessarily reflect the OSC or US SAILING.

It's not appropriate for me to get into names. But it's pretty obvious from team standings and regatta results. Plus we're aware of the youth sailors not yet in Tornado that are doing the Youth Multihull and ISAF Youth Worlds.

The multihull community could do several things to assist the Olympic Sailing Committee. (1) Continue to develop the multihull "pipeline" with events like the Youth Multihull Championships, (2) Actively recruit non multihull youth sailors from the dinghy and college pipeline to sail the Olympic class multihull, (3) help fund our developing youth teams, and (4) assist us in the knowledge transfer to the developing teams.

I think the Tornado has done a pretty good job of reinventing itself with the double trap, spinnaker, square top, and carbon rig. But the continuing technology development makes it very expensive to win and tends to entrench the favorites.

I don't think ISAF would approve an open development or formula class in any category. The ideal multihull replacement (IMHO) would be an out of the box, one builder, modern one design, sails supplied by one manufacturer. (like the 49er). I don't think it's particularly important if the replacement class is currently active in the USA. In fact, I doubt it is an active class anywhere yet. If multihull is in for 2012, I suspect that Tornado is in to fill the spot for 2012 at least. But it would probably enhance our medal prospects if ISAF adopted new equipment.

I don't think singlehanded or doublehanded is that critical at this point.
--Gary

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