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Poll 5 : The first voting and it's on Perf. Equal. [Re: Wouter] #10602
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As this topic seems to cause the least discussion and seems to be settled in the minds of many already I propose to start the voting on this issue.









This poll will run for 7 days.



Wouter







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Person wanting to cast a blank vote ; vote here [Re: Wouter] #10603
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Re: My two cents worth [Re: Berthos] #10604
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I wish to amend my post above to have the same weights listed as the Taipan class rules ie. 97 and 102kg. I made an error listing the other weights.



I would also like to add this to the same discussion.



There is a slight problem with my proposition that the min. weight doesn't include the weight of the spinnaker. The problem is that there are parts of the spinnaker gear which are more or less permanent fixtures to the boat. The total weight is small for these items but need to be taken into account. There also may be an attempt to abuse the rules by making more items than neccessary permenantly fixed to the boat to bring it above minimum weight. A new rule could include something along the lines of:



"Those parts of the equipment needed to operate the spinnaker and which are permanently fixed to the boat shall be kept to a minimum. Parts that must be detached when weighing are: the spinnaker pole in its complete length, pole stays, snuffing device, halyard, sheets, sheet blocks, trampoline bag. A part is to be considered "permanently fixed" when it is riveted, screwed, bolted, glued or welded to a part of the boat which does not belong to the spinnaker equipment."



Rob

Announcement : Introduction of voting rules [Re: Wouter] #10605
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Up till now the voting has been exclusively on the honour system and that worked well. Thanks to all you F16 enthousiasts of the first hour who always worked towards a concensus despite the differences. I much appreciate this aspect of the class.



However, lately some have inquired about the control on the voting and wether it is possible to vote more times than one and other voting garantees. Apparently this is of concern of some people.



Although the last votes all checked out when I link the outcome to personal e-mails I have received I feel that a more secure voting system is required now that the F16 class is expanding and some of us are beginning to question the dependence of the current system.



I want to reassure th class that the voting rules will not change the way the class handles issues of mutual concern ; it will just make the result verifiable and therefor give a more dependable meaning to the outcomes. I've been very honoured by the old voting system and the self governing of it and I'm want to stay as close to that setup as possible.



I will also take great care not to affect to current ease of voting in the new system.



The system will be ready after I consulted with all the class head in the various areas.



The polls on sensitive issues like mastheight and minimum weight will be delayed till the modified voting system is ready.



With kind regards,



Wouter



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Poll is Closed ! Result is 13 to 0 in favour of .. [Re: Wouter] #10606
09/30/02 04:09 AM
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Poll is Closed ! Result is 13 to 0 in favour of abandonning the Performance Equalisation rule.



Wouter



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