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Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: John Williams] #106029
05/07/07 07:48 PM
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I'll see what I can get from my Dad. He still likes to print pictures and bring them to me across the street. If I want soft copies I have to go over to his house and email them to myself or use my memory stick. He loves to take pictures but still isn't up to speed on this "interweb" thing.

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Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: RobLyman] #106030
05/07/07 08:02 PM
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I checked my GPS for max speed and got a reading of 21.10.
Prior to Shands bridge our max was 18.5, I think when we headed towards the turning mark we hit 20.0 or just before we headed down. great winds in there.

Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: John Williams] #106031
05/10/07 10:51 PM
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I thought it was cool that 4 of the top 10 were A-cats (only 4 A-class boats came out and sailed).
All of the others in the top 10 were big ol' boats with lots more sail area, & some were WAY bigger.


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Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: dacarls] #106032
05/11/07 02:20 AM
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Is Clive Mayo sailing an M18 or an A-cat retrofitted with a spinnaker ?

In the listing he is quoted as sailing an M18.

If he is sailing an M18 then he has some massive amount of sailarea as well, 30 sq. mtr. = 323 sq.ft.

Wouter


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Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: dacarls] #106033
05/11/07 10:34 AM
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Perhaps it was the 5 hours of ultra light and spotty winds that enabled those really light boats and those boats with major sail area to capitalize on the conditions?

Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: dacarls] #106034
05/11/07 12:32 PM
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Not to sound sour, but half of those boats (2 of the 4) would not measure in as A Class catamarans. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: tshan] #106035
05/11/07 01:43 PM
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The guys I feel bad for are the 200+ monohulls. They have to get up at 0600, start at 0700, drift all day and then don't even finish in time to be scored. But at least they have tunes and lots of beer on board! Maybe they should start the day before?? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: Timbo] #106036
05/11/07 02:22 PM
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The guys I feel bad for are the 200+ monohulls. They have to get up at 0600, start at 0700, drift all day and then don't even finish in time to be scored. But at least they have tunes and lots of beer on board! Maybe they should start the day before?? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


None of them looked uncomfortable or unhappy when we went by them.


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Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: dacarls] #106037
05/11/07 05:55 PM
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I thought it was cool that 4 of the top 10 were A-cats (only 4 A-class boats came out and sailed).
All of the others in the top 10 were big ol' boats with lots more sail area, & some were WAY bigger.

Can't say ALL of the other boats were big. There was a Prindle 19, a Nacra 6.0 and an F18 in there.

Bottom line is there were some good sailors in the top 10. What is it that Charlie Johnson always says? "I'd rather be lucky than good." In this race it was probaby a little of both.

All I know is next year this big ol' boat isn't giving away 20% sail area to the other two. We WILL be mast head with a longer pole and a gennaker.

Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: David Ingram] #106038
05/11/07 09:12 PM
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None of them looked uncomfortable or unhappy when we went by them.


Conversation overheard (VHF strapped to lifevest) during Dauphin Island Race (conditions were double trap on N5.8, nice short steep chop, close reach after the Middle Bay Light):

Slug1: "hey, hey... can anyone out there guess what this sound is: {loud grating noise}"

Slug2: "sounds like a busted winch..."

Slug1: "Nope, 2nd round of margaritas"

Only time I ever wondered why I sailed multihulls....


Tom
Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: RobLyman] #106039
05/11/07 09:29 PM
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All I know is next year this big ol' boat isn't giving away 20% sail area to the other two. We WILL be mast head with a longer pole and a gennaker. [/quote]

Rob, do you have to run the Mug with a shorter mast, for the bridges? Someone told me so a few years back. What is the mast height and bridge clearance?


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Re: Any news from todays Mug Race? [Re: Timbo] #106040
05/12/07 05:57 AM
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Bill Roberts has a tall and a short rig. He uses the short one in the Mug Race and the tall one on other races. We only have one rig, the short rig. It is 41.5'. Add to that the freeboard and we end up just at or under the 44' limit imposed by the race committee for the south course. The Shands bridge clearance is 44' at high tide. Everytime I have gone through it has been at least 46', plus an extra 2' in the center(or so the sign says).

We do not have a masthead spinnaker on our rig, nor a gennaker, like the other two RCs. Also our spinnaker pole is 3' shorter. That is the 20% sail area we give up. It is mostly downwind sail area, but that gennaker is a very versatile and powerful sail in light wind.

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