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[Re: Jalani]
#109345 06/13/07 04:30 AM 06/13/07 04:30 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Most of the tickets are given in june and juli because the police get midevil on the scores of rickety caravans and campers getting out of storage. So august should be better. But Cat sailors get tickets for not having the mirror extenders or a striped signal plate at the rear end of the mast/trailer. There most also be reflectors on the side of the trailer (orange). Often they also try to nail you on the rule that no part of the load may be head of the trailer hitch, but most often you can talk your way out of that one. Just make sure the mast is mostly over you vehicle and not sticking out at the rear of the trailer too much. Rule of thumb, let the mast protrude as far forward as the most forward point of your roof (not windshield) that way you can claim that it doesn't obstruct forward vision or anything and that therefor it is the most save option.
They also try to get you on the max allowed width but the F16 (like you have of course) are 2.5 mtr wide and are at the limit of what is allowed, so here you just have to let them measure it and you'll be fine.
And make sure all your lights work and that you trailer has a number plate. Typically if they can find an obvious fault then you are going down. But if all obvious things are current and they have to dig for the rule book to make something stick then they'll let you go with a warning or something. Afterall having all the obvious stuff in order makes them believe you are consious and serious about complying and maintaining safety.
Note however that there are rules enough to totally ban your trailer and boat if they only dig deep enough. So never get snug with them. And remember that motorcycle cops are WAAAAAY more knowlegdeable about traffic rules then cops that are driving around in a car. With motorcycle cops be very friendly and accomodating and when he asks let him know who passionate you are about this sport of cat sailing. Often they can related to that being motorcycle enthousiasts and only reprimant you.
Stuff like that.
Now don't go thinking that this happens all the time, it doesn't. But it does happen regulary. For you guys coming over ones this year the risks are pretty small. For Dennis however cartopping his boat regulary, things may be different.
Wouter
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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[Re: DennisMe]
#109347 06/13/07 05:18 AM 06/13/07 05:18 AM |
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,584 +31NL Tony_F18
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | Hmmm. divisible masts and self-built demountable boats aside it's good to know the police are monohull lovers out here...
I checked my car specs and they state I can only officially mount 75Kgs on the roof... I'll have to look into that some more as that could be a serious show-stopper.
Dennis Dennis, Where do you live? I think you would be much happier when you leave your cat at a club and sail from there. Groeten, Tony. | | | Re: Cartop Cat?
[Re: Rolf_Nilsen]
#109349 06/13/07 06:13 AM 06/13/07 06:13 AM |
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,584 +31NL Tony_F18
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | Mirror extenders, striped plate at the back.. These are things not mandatory up here, so I would have gone straight into any trap set up. We have been trough several technical checks and weight checks with our trailer with the Tornado on top, and never had any trouble. Are these rules you refer to mandatory within the EU, or some special dutch rules? I'm not sure what the law says, but IMHO it depends on the mood of the cop in question. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: Cartop Cat?
[Re: Rolf_Nilsen]
#109351 06/13/07 10:04 AM 06/13/07 10:04 AM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK Jalani
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Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK | sorry to take this thread off at a slight tangent, but W's comments have got me a bit concerned too.
In the UK we're not required to have orange sidelights or a striped plate on the mast. Also, although the boat is 2.5m wide, my trailer is about 2.54m wide due to the hull supports and the tie-down loops. It's never been a problem in the UK (yes I have been stopped and checked) and also wonder if the Dutch might require brakes on a trailer as large as ours, even though it doesn't actually weigh all that much?
Do these Dutch rules apply to visitors as well or just Dutch registered vehicles? Can I find these rules anywhere on the web (in ENGLISH)?
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#109355 06/14/07 02:25 AM 06/14/07 02:25 AM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK Jalani
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Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK | Thanks Dennis, it looks like I'll have to take a good look at the way we're set-up. In the UK I know that I can get a red/white striped triangle, but are you saying it needs to be a 50x50 square? Is the illumination white or red?
Cheshire, I don't know how they're classified, but I got pulled near home on my way back from Datchet last year and all was OK.
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