1) Does anyone have pictures and lines from Super Lube that you could post here?

2) There should be a report from Ian later in the day as to how the new boat faired at Silver Lake.

There was a discussion on the 21 Roake design some time ago. A quick search here lead to this picture. Search for Roake and you'll find the tread easily.

http://www.catsailor.com/bb_files/76764-roake.jpg

Which Superlube would you like, Mama Bear or Papa Bear?

I have heard that Ben Hall and Peter Cogan are also launching a new A-Class about now. Is it as radical as this one? and who designed it?. Has anyone seen it yet ?

I was talking with Fred Smith the other day who is finishing the second LR2 right now. It should be out of the paint shop today and on the water soon. He did state during that conversation that Ben Hall also had a new A on the way and expected it to be on the water over the next couple of weeks. That should make it to be this week. Fred knows who designed it. Martin Fischer is one possibility since rumor has it that he has one on the way.

Hi David,

what type was the larger cat hunting the Roark 21 ?

I'm thinking Formula 40.

I've seen pics, its a nice design. Peter Cogan designed it and Vectorworks built the forms. They've got at least two boats on the water. Early reports are positive. I havent seen it live.

Bill

Bill,

If you have those pictures, could you post them for all of us to see. It would be interesting to see his design compared to Ian's boat.

I love Papa Bear!
Daddy, Daddy, can I have one of those!?

I am not keen on the single hyking extension those two boys are out on......unless the crew was really cute.

If I remember correctly, randy's report at the end of the Worrel that year was that the hiking rack worked out great. Also it was banned the next year.

But what a bitch when the rudder kicks up from a big jelly / fish / shark / ray. That's a long way to go get that thing back down again.

But what a bitch when the rudder kicks up from a big jelly / fish / shark / ray. That's a long way to go get that thing back down again. [/quote]

I believe I heard that those racks saved the boat after Randy & Kevin hit a shark that pushed a centerboard back 12" thru the hull...they only finished the leg by sitting on the leeward rack to keep the flooded hull above the water till they could finish the leg

found this on boatdesign.net, nice shots and video of the LR2 sailing
http://sl-acat.blogspot.com/

Oh man, nice blog! Why haven't we known about this before now?

"I am not keen on the single hyking extension those two boys are out on......unless the crew was really cute. "


Hm, interesting!

Do you think this was the real reason why it was banned the next year? In an effort for safer sailing? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

No, I think that it was banned because randy and crew were relaxed, comfortable and dry at the end of the race according to the post race report. It was felt that they had an unfair advantage using the hiking rack.

getting back to the original subject, has anyone further news of the boat? and or pic's of Ben & Peters new boat?
also, have the 2 new boats raced against each other or other noteworthy benchmarks that would give us an indication of how well they are performing?

I have asked anyone if they have pictures of Ben's new boat, but have not seen one yet. I will be going to Bristol next week and if the boat is there, I will take pics and post them. I do not think that the 2 boats have met yet, but they will at least meet at the Worlds if not sooner. There are also at least 2 more new A's in the works. Marstrom has one coming out soon, I have heard that at least the prototype is on the water. Martin fischer also has a new A in the pipeline. So it will be interesting in the near future to see which designs come to the front of the fleet. With all of this going on, it is best to state now the the rig and sails are probably as important as the design itself.

Thanks very much, Im really looking forward to seeing what the differences are