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Re: Tiller extension options [Re: Mary] #115601
05/14/08 09:53 AM
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Hey, fine by me if you use one! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

How about an arm extension instead? You know, one of those pistol-grip long-reach tong things? I'm not sure how well it would hold onto the crossbar, though.


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Re: Tiller extension options [Re: IndyWave] #115602
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Hey, fine by me if you use one!

You won't be saying that after you have been racing Waves for a while. NOT allowing tiller extensions is one thing that usually benefits male sailors when racing against women sailors.

Re: Tiller extension options [Re: Mary] #115603
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I'll just be happy to race against other Waves!

Here are a few photos from a recent Portsmouth race, of me leading the keelboats around the course. Sorry for the quality; they're scans of low-res print-outs. You can tell I'm using my tiller extension.

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Re: Tiller extension options [Re: IndyWave] #115604
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Looks kind of scary rounding that mark with all those big boats aiming at you. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Re: Tiller extension options [Re: Mary] #115605
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You got that right! And those big boats make big holes in the wind, so I had to stay out of their wind shadows, or I really would get run over!


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Re: Tiller extension options [Re: IndyWave] #115606
05/18/08 06:29 PM
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Hey, check this out! The Indy Car teams stole my tiller extension idea!
[Linked Image]
I never even realized an Indy Car needed a tiller extension, but we saw these in several garages, when the Wave Midwest participants went to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway on Friday. The mechanic working by the right front tire is a member of the Eagle Creek Sailing Club.

Okay, well maybe it's a part of the measurement jig they use to set up the cars...

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Re: Tiller extension options [Re: RickWhite] #115607
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With the new rudder system, the tiller is behind the sheets and a conventional extension could have been used. The reason I had a tiller out each side was because on the older rudder system the tiller was ahead of the sheets.
Rick
I really like IndyWave's approach, but I took the more traditional looking tiller route.

Basically mimics the setup of that on a Getaway, but at a fraction of the cost.

I have been sailing with my 'home-made' tiller for a few weeks now, and I can safely say it is worth the effort. I love having the ability to sit in different locations, ie farther foward when running, or light air sailing. One comment I will add, when sailing in really wild wind conditions, say where you are sitting pretty much under the tiller to keep the bows up, then you may opt to strap the tiller ext in place and just use the tiller as it was intended.
But my concerns about 'stress' on the crossbar seem to be unfounded. It works out great. The only issue I have is when the rudders are raised, the tiller extension must be flopped off towards the stern, ball lock bungeed as was suggested, or left to rest on the rudder housing. If not, the hinge tends to bind only slightly on the crossbar causing some minor scratching. This is due to the extreme difference between the up vs down postion of the crossbar.
Not a biggie though.

I began by mounting my crossbar upside down, see the pic, brought the rudders down, and postioned and drilled the hole for the hinge 5 to 10 degrees forward.

Again, here is a materials list for those who wish to try:
Hobie standard hinge p/n 10532010
yoke p/n 3205 ($16 for these two parts)
soft grip 3206 (from page 23 of cat, fits perfectly on the 1/2"cpvc)
(if you want to save the $9 of this Hobie grip, then opt for a 30cent CPVC cap <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> )
60" length of 1/2" cpvc (I bought mine at Lowe's for less than $2) leave it at this length,
3' or 4' length of 1/2" wood dowel (sanded slightly, and pounded into pvc to stiffen)
a little urathane glue like 'marine' Goo to glue on the grip.

Here it is with rudders up [Linked Image]

And rudders down while underway... [Linked Image]


Jim 2007 Hobie Wave
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