Comments About Global Warming (by John Coleman, founder of The Weather Channel)
ICECAP ^ | Nov 07, 2007 | John Coleman


Posted on 11/07/2007 1:18:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum


It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmental conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minutes documentary segment.

I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, ie Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.” It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend.

Right, lets get the flat earth society going again while we are at it <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hey, see that sleeping dog over there? Let's kick it! Okay!...

Well, I for one, am happy that the Weather Channel hasn't fallen into this fake "crisis" whipped up by the media. I mean, it would suck if they happened to produce a site and show like the following:

Completely Biased Fabrication

Oh wait, ooops, hmm....

hahaha Rick you had me..April fools joke come early..

Oooooh I can't wait for this thread to mature. Good reading!!

The weather has been a million year cycle. I'll start to believe in global warming when they stop saying the driest since 1954, hottest since 1948 and the kids will really believe it when they turn the lights off when theyre not in the room.

This message has been brought to you by the American Petroleum Institute, and by Hummer, the vehicle designed big enough to crush those slow moving that get in your way.

I like the mild winters jeff. You can freeze your butt off all you want <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Bring on the warmer winters. I've never had my truck not start because it was too warm.

Some of us depend on making a living with a big vehicle. I don't think I could fit my tools, or an entire house worth of cabinets into the hatch of a Prius. So a 7500 lb diesel pickup, with another 5000lbs of trailer behind it will have to do the trick. Some day I will try and run one over just to see if I can do it. I bet my soda won't even come out of the cup holder.

Sailing season's over, I'll bite.



Exactly. Finally some truth. And I guess this is sailing related because we as sailors are interacting with the natural world while practicing our sport?

This whole pinko, care-for-our-environment-thing is so played. Why should we care what our car spews out of the tailpipe, or what chemicals they spray on the crops? Like any of these chemicals could really affect ocean life when it runs into the bay. PAALLEEASE! Recycle used motor oil? It's like fertilizer to the coral reef! That's where my used oil goes, right down the bathtub drain and onto the coral reef. I don't wear a respirator when fixing my boat! The body is tough and resilient; don't need one, they're for liberal democrats and people that watch too much Discovery Channel. Gullible people!

There is no way that human activity could affect the entire planet. They want us to think that the planet is is just one big global community; like a big neighborhood or even just a giant house.

Since we all know global warming is a farce set up by some liberal court in San Francisco by a bunch of hippie activist judges working for Greenpeace, we should prove it wrong. I say we do a pollution experiment on a small scale.

Using the 'Earth is your Home' model that I heard from one of my hippie college professors. Go into your living room and in the center of the floor, bare it all, and drop a huge 'steamer'. Don't bother cleaning it up. Collect data on your "environment" for a month. I bet you'll find that your little 'human activity' did not affect your 'environment' one bit. You can add more 'pollution' to the pile if you wish to simulate more 'cars' and 'factories'. Heck, you could even have your friends come over and add more 'pollution' and you could simulate a big city like NY or LA.

Can you still sit on the couch, watch TV and sip a cold beer amongst your 'pollution'? See, no damage to your 'environment. No such thing as 'global warming'.

If your wife tries to tell you to clean up your 'environment' tell her she's an
and there's nothing to worry about. She's just been 'duped'. She might as well join

and just get off your back.

Post the data from your small-scale environmental experiment here, just so we all can see how there is no possibility of pollution from "human activity" affecting the "environment" whatsoever. I'm sure that our collective data will reveal that we shouldn't worry about spewing anything into our environment.

Why should we care? It's our American right to burn as much oil as we can afford.

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Global Warming = a True "FAD". And sadly, the Weather Channel is in on it! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> BTW, Dr. Cullen's little spat about "all you weather people should get on my bandwagon or you should all be disbarred" almost cost her the coveted AMA seal of approval in the weather community!

I'll get Lauren Wallace to put her into the wall! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Bob <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Speaking of extremists -- Most, NO, All of the sailors I know are very aware and are very ecology minded. I really don't know anyone that dumps oil into their sink. Do You?
Rick

Granted. So why are the glaciers melting and the polar ice fields breaking up?

Is that a misrepresentation, or just a fad?

How long does a geological fad last?

Right, lets dust off the history books on this one with some other examples of pinko-commie environmentalists...

So, Rachel Carson, yea, that was all some leftist extremism, right? Those pesticides and DDTs all a bunch of made up propaganda to promote some conspiracy against the chemical companies that are only trying to help all of us.

Lets go back further, anyone heard of Claire Patterson? He was a real crazy environmentalist, he said that lead in gasoline was getting into the environment. Blasphemy!! We all know that lead in gasoline is good! BTW he was also to first person to successfully determine the age of the earth. What a quack!!

Oh, yea, the mercury thing, just more made up environmentalism.

The truth is in another 20 years, it will be well accepted in this country (as it already has in the rest of the developed world) that global climate change due to anthropogenic emissions of carbon dioxide is real, and the interests of corporate America will be fighting off those crazy environmentalists about some other issue that is totally made up and a scam.

If you go back and look at the both the pesticides and lead issues in the media, you'll see the opposition language is exactly the same. That these were both scams made up by communists, extremists, with some agenda that is going to harm the economy and cause the collapse of American society.

The real questions that remain are what are going to be the magnitude of the effect, not whether it is happening. And that is where the uncertainty remains, how much will sea level rise? How much will local weather patterns change? How will this affect our ability to produce food, and have fresh clean water?

But I know most people would rather just argue, point fingers, and draw political lines in the sand rather than look at this as an opportunity to do something good for generations to come, and re-vitalize our own economy with renewable energy. Because the truth is this probably won't drastically change our lives day to day, but it will for your kids and grand kids, and that seems like it should be enough motivation to at least be open minded about the issue and seek to find ways to curb fossil fuel emissions.

Then again, I've been accused of being an "environmentalist" before, so perhaps this is all part of the grand conspiracy to topple the economy and live in ruins, as we all know that is really what all environmentalists want!

For the sake of accuracy (again), Here's how your first post referred to ecologically minded environmentalists, which include ALL of the sailors you know:





Doesn't sound like you enjoy hanging out with your environmental sailor friends much so far?







Sounds to me like you have disdain for CNN, CBS, the Democratic Party etc and...school teachers. Those poor, stupid school teachers. I knew global warming was their fault. Wait, my wife's a tree huggin school teacher.

What about anchor babies and illegal immigrants? Surely they have a part in this global warming conspiracy. Isn't that what Rush fed to you so you could spew it back out?



Sooo, what's the scam? I didn't get that information from your post. Sounds like 'the mere TV weatherman' just stated 'it's a scam' several times, called a few names and never stated an argument. That's a poor way to try and convince people that what you're saying is true. It's a good way, however to loose credibility instantly.

So, I say if you're going to shoot off some name calling and try and degrade whole blocs of people. Let's have some evidence and a backing argument. I'm willing to listen as long as the argument is sound and not some echo from Fox News, or Rush Limbaugh. Ditto, Ditto.

A true story: During the SD fires a few weeks back, I was on another forum and some guy wrote that the fires were caused because the whacko, environmentalists don't allow logging Blah Blah Blah. The argument got my interest because I know there are no commercial logging operations in the area. There are no trees, it's chaparral, head high bushes, no trees. Well it turns out that Rush had blamed the fires on the environmental whackos and this guy was just spewing trash...There you go.

Let's hear about the scam and some arguments! It'll be fun!

I'll tell you right now that I am a scientist studying island endemics, succession, interrelationships between invasives and native species and fire ecology. I think I might qualify to be a whacko-environmental-scientist that manipulates data. You'll have to forgive me.

Guess its time, once again, to post a link to this wonderful article. Again, I believe this person "hit the nail on the head"!
Global Warming: Man-made or Natural?

We've had a "controlled burning" policy here in Florida since the '60s. I suspect you will have to do the same. Our pine and oak thickets are extremely volatile this time of year.

Politics and strange bedfellows: Newt Gingrich, my personal choice for Prince of Darkness, has come out in favor of carbon credits and a general war against Global Warming.

A war against global warming?? OOOOOOooooooo, I really have a hard time not commenting on that and really pissing my friends in the US off. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Do we need to have this discussion again? I'll argue both politics and global warming, but it's not really why I hang out here.

Come on Rolf, where's your sense of humor? Crank up the AM radio, pop an Oxycontin, and enjoy the off season. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Unfortunately the author of this article in in bed with the oil companies (surprise!!). Obviously Wikipedia can be, lets say inaccurate at times, it also raises some concerns with the credibility and objectivity as an expert.

"A 2007 Newsweek cover story on climate change denial reported that: "In April 1998 a dozen people from the denial machine — including the Marshall Institute, Fred Singer's group and Exxon — met at the American Petroleum Institute's Washington headquarters. They proposed a $5 million campaign, according to a leaked eight-page memo, to convince the public that the science of global warming is riddled with controversy and uncertainty." The plan was reportedly aimed at "raising questions about and undercutting the 'prevailing scientific wisdom'" on climate change. According to Newsweek, the plan was leaked to the press and therefore was never implemented.[25]"

I suppose this isn't the appropriate forum fall all this, but then again, if we don't act as stewards for the environment we all use (for sailing), then who will?

I just find is amazing that given all of the hard working, honest scientists that are working on the climate change issue around the world, it only takes a few with extreme views and ulterior motives to convince half a nation that there is some conspiracy against the poor suffering oil companies and big business.