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#129324 01/21/08 07:10 PM 01/21/08 07:10 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I20s are never single handers cos if you capsize, you can't get them up on your own. for that matter the same goes for F18s. not true - I've singlehandedly righted both. Once on the I20 and several times on the F18 (a couple of times with my crew still on the high-and-dry hull!). I weighed 175 lbs (80 kg) at the time. Granted, there must be some significant wind...but you shouldn't have capsized in anything else - right?
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#129327 01/22/08 05:54 AM 01/22/08 05:54 AM |
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Posts: 1,203 uk | So Jake, you can say that a 20 can be righted single handed and that it will never capsize in winds that are too light to right it. Perhaps you should recommend that Nacra put it in their brochures - give them a ring! Remember this is more than just a bet about who can do what, this is a matter of safety.
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#129328 01/22/08 09:07 AM 01/22/08 09:07 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | So Jake, you can say that a 20 can be righted single handed and that it will never capsize in winds that are too light to right it. Perhaps you should recommend that Nacra put it in their brochures - give them a ring! Remember this is more than just a bet about who can do what, this is a matter of safety. The statement made was that it couldn't be righted single handed. I simply said that it can be righted single handed in the right conditions. But I agree, you can't count on it and in those conditions that it can be righted singlehandedly, I wouldn't want to be sailing it without a crew anyway.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: F18 or 20?
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#129329 01/22/08 09:20 AM 01/22/08 09:20 AM |
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Posts: 3,348 | F16 is the ONLY choice for what you want!!
BRING IT ON! I CAN TAKE IT! DING!! WHERE ARE YA' THERES *NOODLE* TO BE FLUNG!!
It's a New Year, I've even cleared my "ignore" list!
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#129330 01/22/08 09:22 AM 01/22/08 09:22 AM |
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,921 Michigan PTP
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Posts: 2,921 Michigan | F16 is the ONLY choice for what you want!!
BRING IT ON! I CAN TAKE IT! DING!! WHERE ARE YA' THERES *NOODLE* TO BE FLUNG!! Recheck the weight though. I think 230 plus 135 is getting up there for the F16. I know that 160 plus 230 and the boat feels like it needs to take a poop and get going again <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> however, 230 plus a "kid" would be perfect.
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#129331 01/22/08 09:24 AM 01/22/08 09:24 AM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I agree with Jake, and I have righted my Inter 20 alone, you get the wind under the sail and up it comes, I wasn't in the water more than 1 minute. But no matter what boat you buy, if you can't handle it, it's dangerous. A Jetski is dangerous in the hands of a novice. There is just about no real righting difference between a F18 vs. an I20, so just get what your local fleet is racing.
The I20 will not pitchpole as easily as some of the F18's however, (longer and fatter bows) so as Jake says, you shouldn't be upside down on the I20 in the first place unless it's blowing or you have made a mistake... which can happen to anyone, any time, any boat, any wind. So there you go.
Oh, and if you race alone, 230 is a great weight for the F16 Blade. Then if it's really blowing, you can bring crew, or not.
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#129335 01/28/08 10:41 AM 01/28/08 10:41 AM |
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Posts: 297 | At 185, 6', I can right an F18 sucessfully, sailing solo. (First time I sailed one, in fact.) There are alternatives (that I dont have) to also to make solo sailing and capsizing less of a risk (righting poles, ballast buckets). That said, I would prefer to not capsize in a breeze > 12kts w/rough sea...
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