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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: jody] #136477
03/19/08 11:27 AM
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I am sure I can arrange for some ultra super duper poster sized images.

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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Robi] #136478
03/19/08 11:44 AM
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Also a quick FYI its blowing harder right now than it was that saturday!
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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Robi] #136479
03/19/08 12:36 PM
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Allow me to be a kill-joy here but copyrighted pictures are not of that much use to the class as a whole. Afterall, we create event galleries on the www.formula16.org website to show how active we are; among other things.

So is it possible that Travis Edwards can decopyright the pics for that usage. Can anyone ask ?

If not, then did anybody make personal pictures that he is willing to donate to the class ?

If so then I would like to have those for our F16 website and promo material.

I like paid photographers just fine as long as its doesn't result in private persons not making any pics (because there is already a photographer there) and ending up with a blank in the official F16 galleries.

We have been down this road before with respect to the A-cat/F16 invitational. Photographer then refused any usage of his photos unless being paid. Is it Gulfport policy to have professional photographers ? If so then can we arrange for somebody else to take picture for us in the future ?

I'm truly sorry and I don't intent any disrespect to mr. Edwards, but that is just the way it works out for a class without a promo budget (as we have no membership fees) like our F16 class.

Wouter

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Wouter Hijink
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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Wouter] #136480
03/19/08 01:07 PM
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Allow me to be a kill-joy here but copyrighted pictures are not of that much use to the class as a whole.

Hey Wout I don't think there is to much need to get so worked up.
I met Travis he is a personal friend of Robi who also serves in the Coast
Guard. I bet if we were to ask Travis nicely for some lo-resolution images
for posting to our class website he would be happy to oblige.
I for one am glad that these great images will be available for people
to purchase in high resolution format.

Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: ] #136481
03/19/08 01:41 PM
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Great !

Lets ask him.

Again, I'm not disrespecting anyone here, just laying out the limits we as a class have.

Wouter


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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Wouter] #136482
03/19/08 09:30 PM
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For the extreme boat try a moth! The top guys tell all newbies to expect to swim more than they sail in the first season. Even though the newbies are generally top sailors.
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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Wouter] #136483
03/20/08 08:46 AM
03/20/08 08:46 AM
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Allow me to be a kill-joy here but copyrighted pictures are not of that much use to the class as a whole. Afterall, we create event galleries on the www.formula16.org website to show how active we are; among other things.

So is it possible that Travis Edwards can decopyright the pics for that usage. Can anyone ask ?

If not, then did anybody make personal pictures that he is willing to donate to the class ?

If so then I would like to have those for our F16 website and promo material.

I like paid photographers just fine as long as it doesn't result in private persons not making any pics (because there is already a photographer there) and ending up with a blank in the official F16 galleries.

We have been down this road before with respect to the A-cat/F16 invitational. Photographer then refused any usage of his photos unless being paid. Is it Gulfport policy to have professional photographers ? If so then can we arrange for somebody else to take picture for us in the future ?
Wouter

You are right, Wouter. This has been a problem for years now: Professional freelance photographers take pictures at a regatta in hopes of making money by selling pictures to the participants. And the regatta organizers think, "Oh, this is wonderful! We have a professional taking pictures for us, and it is not even costing us anything, so we don't need to take any pictures ourselves."

Trouble is, they are not really "taking pictures for US." And it is sometimes difficult to get the use of those pictures for promotional purposes and to provide to the media.

Usually, the professional photographer will have a website where he has galleries of the photos he takes for various events, so on the F16 website you can provide a link to the photographer's website (or directly to that specific gallery).

Usually, the photographer will provide a few good pictures to the regatta organizers to use for promotional purposes, like distribution to the media (as long as he gets a photo credit).

Speaking as a media person (Catamaran Sailor magazine), I know it is a little more of a hassle to get photos from a professional photographer, but they are usually very cooperative (at least for a print media like ours), because it is good advertising for them and can maybe help them sell more photos.

And a big PLUS is that usually the photos are far superior to anything that can be captured by most of us mere mortals with point-and-shoot cameras.

I think it is wonderful that freelance professionals have taken an interest in shooting pictures of sailing regattas, but the regatta organizers should try to work out an arrangement with the photographer in advance to have access to some of the pictures for promo and to link to the photographer's web site.

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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Mary] #136484
03/20/08 09:02 AM
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What ever happened to Roy Laughlin? I haven't seen him at any regattas since the Alter Cup.


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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Mary] #136485
03/20/08 09:29 AM
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I think it is wonderful that freelance professionals have taken an interest in shooting pictures of sailing regattas, but the regatta organizers should try to work out an arrangement with the photographer in advance to have access to some of the pictures for promo and to link to the photographer's web site.


Damon L from Memphis, TN made the trek all the way to Pensacola for the Midwinters to take pictures. He literally got hundreds of pics by sitting in the "tuna tower" of the Committee/Starting boat and using a super high powered lens. The pics were all posted on thebeachcats site. He nearly froze his butt off.... It was great of him to do that.


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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Robi] #136486
03/21/08 07:27 AM
03/21/08 07:27 AM
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840 photos posted. Beautiful work .


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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: LuckyDuck] #136487
03/21/08 07:47 AM
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Yeah, nice pics... but I don't see what I am looking for...

Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: PTP] #136488
03/21/08 08:46 AM
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Yeah, nice pics... but I don't see what I am looking for...
What are you looking for?

Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Robi] #136489
03/21/08 03:00 PM
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Yeah, nice pics... but I don't see what I am looking for...
What are you looking for?


All the answers of course:
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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: PTP] #136490
03/21/08 06:46 PM
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Is that all!!!!
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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Mark P] #136491
03/21/08 07:36 PM
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Wouter who art in Europe
Hallowed by thy name
Thy catamaran come
Thy race be won.....

Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: PTP] #136492
03/21/08 08:29 PM
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You're looking in the wrong place.

http://englishhistory.net/keats/poetry/odeonagrecianurn.html

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Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know."

Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: fin.] #136493
03/22/08 02:46 PM
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Alas we digress. Ed


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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: LuckyDuck] #136494
03/25/08 12:20 PM
03/25/08 12:20 PM
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Hey guys, this event was great. It was good to meet the Florida sailors.

I was especially delighted to meet a body double (tback) - that must be a great job! Also we got to meet the terrifying Seth - I am still scared. And finally I know now why THE Chuck is called THE Chuck.

Sailing was cool. Partying was fun. Everyone was great.
I hope we'll see y'all in Mumbles!

And look at the attachment. This boat rocks!

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Falcon F16 - BEL666
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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Kathleen] #136495
03/25/08 02:19 PM
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Does anybody have (or have a link to) the full result of the Gulfport A-cat/F16 invitational ?

Wouter


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Re: Gulfport results/updates [Re: Wouter] #136496
03/27/08 04:33 PM
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I've asked everyone I know. No luck.

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