--mARK WROTE -That's the spirit... Distribute those drinks from the cooler and persuade everyone that they have the wrong boat... and gee your type of boat would be perfect for them!
c-THATS THE SPIRIT -perswade others not to build a class in their area ,-be it A Class -Hobies -or the dreaded Formula Classes opposed for years , which you attempted to discourage and continue to with mis information .
-That's the spirit...... and gee your type of flawed P-Handicapping would be perfect for them!
--Mark ..>Failing that and when everyone sober's up... Realize that the overwhelming number of racing sailors are racing handicap in the USA (PHRF or Portsmouth).
WRONG -not in catamarans -the vast percentage historically and now are in Hobie Class racing . P-rating historically alienates Hobie and other class oriented catamaran racing sailors . They realize their large active classes with excellent sailors in each that get the max. from each type in class are unduly penalized in Prated handicapping.--When good class racing is there ,-and that is why you purchased the boat ,-then why bother with an artificial handicap .--Hobie sailors insure numbers in CLASS before attending an event --{roll call } -or they do not attend .
Just like some who say they will not attend Spring Fever or other regattas unless run their way ,-based on artificial handicap.---mARK ?.
Mark >---Remember that even in the worrell 1000 with the same 1 design boats.... competitors are finishing 4 hours after the leader... Holes are a fact of life
WRONG -If the wind is consistant the fleet often will finish within 20 to 30 minutes of each other ,--excluding those with mechanical -gear related delay .
C-Yes Mark --in distance racing often boats seperate some go offshore and end up in very different weather patterns --
Just more reason to never apply P-rating to distance racing .
P-rating is irrelivant for distance racing for these and several other reasons .
M-2) Nobody is pretending that you could race Hobie 16's with spinnaker boats and get accurate results.. Most races group the big boats with spins in a separate division from the little ones so that you don't get skunked by a Hobie 16 while on your Marstrom 20 or vice versa.
EXACTLY -why race a M-20 and H-16 ,-
Boats must be raced in similar groups ,-
The ideal being one design or Formula groups .
I-M> personally follow the this piece of advice from Jim Teeters
C> If you want to race the floating bathtubs dingy types with very similar hull speeds --5 or 6 --whooopee --under P-rating that he refers to then fine ,--go race it -
"Finding the right rule for you and your boat - Lightening -Interlake - etc-is much like a marriage. There is no such thing as perfection. you need to review the pros and cons with a cool rationale intellect, yet go with your gut instinct and what looks attractive. There can be a wonderful honeymoon of great racing (winning more than your share) or and abrupt disenchantment (loosing more than...)
Racing catamarans --it is fun fast exciting challenging ,-all the wonderfull elements of true sport .
We traditionally have great dinners and parties after ,-always more than half the attraction to the sport ,-the great folks and wondefull shared human experiences of it and its special challenges .
Apply P-rating to a small local club ,-if that is the preference of members ,-It is clearly not for H-Class and numerous other catamaran class oriented events .
If we must have a rating system then lets adopt one that is constructive and benificial in nature that measures and helps us improve and understand boat design ,--for safety and many other important reasons .
-HAPPY HOLIDAYS
