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Long Beach, California | I don't speak that language, but it was still better commentary than Gary provided. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Looking for a Job, I got credi... | [quote I think the T medal race action from the Games where it shows Bundy putting the mainsheet in his mouth so he can still steer with one hand while playing the mainsail is a classic demonstration of sailing down wind 2 up. From a post today over on the TornadoCat Yahoo forum from Oskar Johansson (Team CAN helmsman): ...Even though it was only 15 knots of breeze there was almost 2 knots of current going upwind which created steep waves. Everyone had to throttle back downwind, thus sail lower angle and play main much more frequently to power over waves. It felt more like 20-22 knots of breeze due to the rough sea state. Great sailing conditions.... [/quote] Mike, you've lost me with the part I highlighted bold above.
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Vancouver, BC | [quote I think the T medal race action from the Games where it shows Bundy putting the mainsheet in his mouth so he can still steer with one hand while playing the mainsail is a classic demonstration of sailing down wind 2 up. From a post today over on the TornadoCat Yahoo forum from Oskar Johansson (Team CAN helmsman): ...Even though it was only 15 knots of breeze there was almost 2 knots of current going upwind which created steep waves. Everyone had to throttle back downwind, thus sail lower angle and play main much more frequently to power over waves. It felt more like 20-22 knots of breeze due to the rough sea state. Great sailing conditions.... Mike, you've lost me with the part I highlighted bold above. [/quote] I bolded the pertinent words of your post...a classic demonstration of downwind sailing 2 up...but Bundy was sailing 1- up <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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[Re: scooby_simon]
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Vancouver, BC | Does anyone know why GER put it in the p155 as Ben so eloquently put it?
Also, does anyone know if all the on-board footage was captured and will it be released? Oskar stated GER hit something, popped leeward rudder (damaged it) and went over.As for the on-board footage, don't hold your breath for an official DVD distribution from NBC...there's no Michael Phelps content afterall. The best we'll have it what's on-line now.
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Looking for a Job, I got credi... | [quote I think the T medal race action from the Games where it shows Bundy putting the mainsheet in his mouth so he can still steer with one hand while playing the mainsail is a classic demonstration of sailing down wind 2 up. From a post today over on the TornadoCat Yahoo forum from Oskar Johansson (Team CAN helmsman): ...Even though it was only 15 knots of breeze there was almost 2 knots of current going upwind which created steep waves. Everyone had to throttle back downwind, thus sail lower angle and play main much more frequently to power over waves. It felt more like 20-22 knots of breeze due to the rough sea state. Great sailing conditions.... Mike, you've lost me with the part I highlighted bold above. I bolded the pertinent words of your post...a classic demonstration of downwind sailing 2 up...but Bundy was sailing 1- up <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> [/quote] No he was 2up; Gashby was playing the kite? If I was sailing 2 up; I would be doing as he (Bundock) was; If I was one up, I would have the mainsail cleated and playing the kite.
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Looking for a Job, I got credi... | If I summarize correct, most of you would prefer to ease the main (a little) and the kite and would not steer down? So increase speed and keep the same heading?
Gill Both if possible. When I was sailing my Hurricane 5.9 with the kite up we would try and bear off, easy the mainsail and also (maybe) ease the kite a tiny amount. Same comments as I made on the F16 forum really, what happens when you bear off, the apparent wind moves forward; but if you have a hull in the air, you need to either bear off, ease the mainsail or a bit of both. I'd go for a bit of both if I could, I'd then re-trim the mainsail while the crew continues to drive the kite.
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