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Well JW? [Re: John Williams] #153380
08/28/08 05:13 PM
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If anyone knows you do... what's the skinny?


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Re: Well JW? [Re: David Ingram] #153381
08/28/08 07:56 PM
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They just finished throwing Chris Bachelor in the water, christening him as the new N17 NA Champ, dethroning the Bobcat.

A/N 1st on N20's, with Korte, Hill, Wick/Jake, Capt Kirk rounding out top 5.

Look for other positions soon....

Re: Nacra NAs news? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #153382
08/28/08 10:03 PM
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There is no aluminum mast anywhere for a Nacra 20 nor plans to make one. I'm not sure what they are planning, if anything, to address the price of the carbon stick but I'll try to ask that question tonight.


Would a domestic supplier be any cheaper? If so, then it really IS the shipping costs that are pushing the price up, not so much the carbon or labor costs...

Could mast builders propose some quotes for building to PC for evaluation? THey could probalby place a bulk order for, say, 500 masts and then just pay a small charge for inventory storage. PC probably has relatively good data on how many masts they've had to buy each year, and could probably develop some idea of how many they'd use per year.

I would have thought this would be one of their criteria for licensing builder(s). Get the bulk rate on a production run, rather than having to place individual orders each time someone calls.

And if shipping it from Southern Spars to PC, and then to the customer adds so much cost, why not send the blank from Southern Spars (or whatever manufacturer) to the local authorized dealer directly and have them fit out to one design specs? That's why they're an "authorized dealer", right?


While that sounds great, you're really talking about 10 to 20 masts a year at the current rates. Hard to negotiate with that model. The dollar is weak - which also contributes.

Jack escaped tonight before I could ask him about more. I was tied up in the intergalactic foosball championship against Newkirk and Pitt with Holmes at my side....we lost by the narrowest of margins after a "best out of three" that suddenly moprhed into best out of five (with four games)......


Jake Kohl
Re: Nacra NAs news? [Re: Jake] #153383
08/29/08 12:43 AM
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Re: Nacra NAs news? [Re: hobiegary] #153384
08/29/08 07:27 AM
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Foosball, it's a participation sport.


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Re: Nacra NAs news? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #153385
08/29/08 07:53 AM
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Interesting the tangents these posts take - not knocking foosball though, in fact the Key Team will be in training for the next after hours event in Pcola.

Anyway, F-a-tings didn't get any of the thread talk, but had the closest finish in their standings. Guy/Debbie lost tie breaker for first overall in the last race, and 3rd place was only 3 pts aft. Hope to see you all down in Pcola in 6 weeks for NAF 18 Champs!

Out - JMac

Re: Nacra NAs news? [Re: JMAC] #153386
08/29/08 11:16 PM
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I'm dissapointed that I missed this intergalactic game of foosball!
We were dreading the idea of crossing the Canadian/ U.S. border in the middle of the day before labor day weekend (we drove through at 11PM last nite, not a single car in front of us!) Thanks again to everyone who gave me the advice about crossing the border... it was kind of rediculous how easy it was! It was even easier to get into the U.S. than into Canada, might just have been the customs agents we dealt with though.

This event was certainly top notch as far as sailing and competition goes... really well run! Thanks again to all the organizers!! The foosball was certainly the most entertaining part of the nightlife in Caseville but I vote next time we go cow tipping... that is a participation sport and their is certainly an abundance of cows out there! I already know who exactly would be the champions and who would be those to lag behind... but in an attempt to protect the soon to be guilty i'll refrain from naming names.

Congrats to all the new Nacra NA Champs! It was really cool to watch Alex and Nigel climb from wherever they were in the fleet into first in almost every race. It's almost even cool when you go from being half a leg in front of them to a leg behind them from one windward mark rounding to the next!

Re: Nacra NAs news? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #153387
09/02/08 12:59 PM
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I've got to say, this was a REALLY well run event! Matt did a GREAT job as the PRO. All the organizers should really pat themselves on the back!!

I'm just sad that our results don't really show how well we were sailing. I can think of four, 10, 11's and 12's that were 3's - 5's prior to small "issues"... like rounding the wrong A mark... Ugh. Details.

Regardless, a great week of sailing! If you've not been to this regatta site, it's def a grade A place to hold a regatta!

Re: Nacra NAs news? [Re: Will_R] #153388
09/02/08 02:52 PM
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Thanks for the compliment, Will.

Andy should've known better about the change mark - we did that enough to him at the Hobie 20 North Americans. I think we only did the change in 3 or 4 of 16 races.

I was amazed at how quick the 20's were downwind in anything over 10 kts. 11 minutes up / 6 minutes down x 3 = a 51 minute race for the 20's. You guys were catching up a whole half lap on the F18's who were getting a 45 minute race.

(The 20's started first on a course 2, then the F17's six minutes later on a course 1, then the F18's six minutes after them, also on a course 1. The 20's would be just rounding the weather mark when the 18's started - and they would finish together.)

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